Let's Talk About Hell (3)

[Ed Bana]

Your the one who said "I didn't think ED bana had an argument for this scripture".

But did you give one word of substance???

You sure have not refuted one thing?

So what is your point?

Or do you NOT have one outside of a personal attack?



oh just being open about our debate, nothing personal.

 

[createdtoworship]

Your the one who said "I didn't think ED bana had an argument for this scripture".

But did you give one word of substance???


here is the substance along with our debate...

Revelation Chapter 3 verse 5 states that those who don't overcome will be blotted out of the book of life. Is this spiritual too? How can this apply to non overcoming believers?

also in chapter 2 verse 7 it says that those who don't overcome will not be able to eat of the tree of life and live forever. How can this apply to non overcoming believers?

so how do you answer those, is the tree of life spiritual? I don't think so.

 

[Ed Bana]

Wow. You better go back and look. I answered both of these questions last night.

Your the one who said "I didn't think ED bana had an argument for this scripture".

But did you give one word of substance???



here is the substance along with our debate...

Revelation Chapter 3 verse 5 states that those who don't overcome will be blotted out of the book of life. Is this spiritual too? How can this apply to non overcoming believers?

also in chapter 2 verse 7 it says that those who don't overcome will not be able to eat of the tree of life and live forever. How can this apply to non overcoming believers?

so how do you answer those, is the tree of life spiritual? I don't think so.

 

[createdtoworship]

Wow. You better go back and look. I answered both of these questions last night.


why don't you try shortening your post a bit, it's a chunk of stuff. Thanx.

 

[Ed Bana]

You are sooo offended.

Wow. You better go back and look. I answered both of these questions last night.



why don't you try shortening your post a bit, it's a chunk of stuff. Thanx.

 

[createdtoworship]

You are sooo offended. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I am not, It's just hard reading a cut and paste. But I know what you mean.

 

[Ed Bana]

When you grow up spiritually come back and we will debate, Obviously all you know is your bias religion.

You are sooo offended.
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I am not, It's just hard reading a cut and paste. But I know what you mean.

 

[createdtoworship]

When you grow up spiritually come back and we will debate, Obviously all you know is your bias religion.


okay, see ya. (this is not a fun thing anymore). Especially seeing how you deal with the word of God, it is offensive.

 

[Ed Bana]

It is suppose to be. Do you evenknow what Mt Sion is?


Romans 9:33
As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed

When you grow up spiritually come back and we will debate, Obviously all you know is your bias religion.



okay, see ya. (this is not a fun thing anymore). Especially seeing how you deal with the word of God, it is offensive.

 

[createdtoworship]

It is suppose to be. Do you evenknow what Mt Sion is?


Romans 9:33
As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed






First you criticize my laundry list of verses that you couldn't answer btw. Then you reply with a laundry list of your own cut and paste and call it an answer? I don't think so.

 

[Lord Herdsetk]

 

[LutheranMafia]

A scholar is trained in critical thinking, which means that any and all religious prejudices are left at the door. Anyone who studies from a religious perspective projects his/her beliefs onto the evidence, which then invalidates it by trying to match evidence to a pre drawn conclusion. A good scholar does not contaminate his/her own evidence, but rather draws conclusions based on the weight of the evidence.

Academia can be it's own religion. Even more suspect than that of a particular denomination. Academia is notoriously atheistic, which is anathema to making rational decisions in a spiritual context.

 

[LutheranMafia]

I agree. Ed and Grady are making fools of themselves, posting so fast they can't even get the

attributes right.

 

[Ed Bana]

That is all you have is a personal attack?

I agree. Ed and Grady are making fools of themselves, posting so fast they can't even get the

attributes right.

 

[Soulgazer]

Academia can be it's own religion. Even more suspect than that of a particular denomination. Academia is notoriously atheistic, which is anathema to making rational decisions in a spiritual context.

I am afraid I am going to sound insulting, so let me share right off the bat that I have no wish to be. Academia is a discipline. It is not understood by undisciplined people. It's a form of self control that reveals facts so that they may be properly interpreted. It is certainly nothing to be feared or hated.
If you sincerely wish to know what I know, this is how it is done. There are no short cuts; That web site is not the end, in fact it is only the beginning.


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Then, you too can have people question your knowledge

 

[createdtoworship]

I agree. Ed and Grady are making fools of themselves, posting so fast they can't even get the

attributes right.

problem with my computer....

 

[LutheranMafia]

That is all you have is a personal attack?

I'm not taking sides. I'm agreeing with Lord H, the debate had degenerated into a hasty tit-for-tat.

 

[LutheranMafia]

I am afraid I am going to sound insulting, so let me share right off the bat that I have no wish to be. Academia is a discipline. It is not understood by undisciplined people. It's a form of self control that reveals facts so that they may be properly interpreted. It is certainly nothing to be feared or hated.
If you sincerely wish to know what I know, this is how it is done. There are no short cuts; That web site is not the end, in fact it is only the beginning.


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Then, you too can have people question your knowledge

I've got a bachelor's in computer science. I am no stranger to academia, which is precisely why I know it's very real limitations and biases. Especially when it comes to religious studies. For example, when dating Hindu scriptures and the birth times of religious figures Western scholars lobomtize the firgures, dating Krishna to live only a few hundred years before Buddha, to give a specific example. Academia has an anti-religious and even an anti-mystical, materialist reductionist point of view. It works great in some fields like mathematics, but it's approach to religion and mysticism is atrocious. If you are really a Gnostic then you should be a mystic and understand this. The core of Gnosticism is not treated any more kindly by academia than any other form of myticism.

 

[Ed Bana]

The debate is a far cry from a tit for tat.

We are debating God's Word if it is spiritual or literal. We are debating if God is going to torture billion upon billions of lost souls for ever and ever with no mercy and God who is omnipresence will be helpless to do anything about it. Or will God ultimately save all people.

This is one of the most serious debates a believer can have.

I'm not taking sides. I'm agreeing with Lord H, the debate had degenerated into a hasty tit-for-tat.

 

[Timothew]

The debate is a far cry from a tit for tat.

We are debating God's Word if it is spiritual or literal. We are debating if God is going to torture billion upon billions of lost souls for ever and ever with no mercy and God who is omnipresence will be helpless to do anything about it. Or will God ultimately save all people.

This is one of the most serious debates a believer can have.

Yes, it asks the question "what do we believe God is like?"