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skylark1

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I have had discussions with LDS who believe that God has parents. They made a point of stating that this is not official LDS doctrine, but that there is nothing in LDS doctrine that conflicts with the belief. The same thing was said about LDS believing that God the Father was once a man.

Do you really not believe that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones? If so, I think that you are the only LDS that I have ever heard of that believes this.

Why is this discussion in the non-Christian forum? I assume that the LDS posting in this thread consider themselves to be Christians.
 
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From the Doctrine and Covenants, which is considered LDS doctrine:

130:22
The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit Were it not so, the Holy Ghost could not dwell in us.
 
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Why is this discussion in the non-Christian forum? I assume that the LDS posting in this thread consider themselves to be Christians.
i agree with that. i guess a certain someone didn't have it in them to put us in another christian thread. oh, well. what are u gonna do? strike? hohohohoho. as fo my belief that God and his Son not having flesh and blood, that is what i believe, but that doesn't make it right or wrong. there's only 1 way to find out. however, this may change.
 
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Latter-Day Saint said:
as fo my belief that God and his Son not having flesh and blood, that is what i believe, but that doesn't make it right or wrong. there's only 1 way to find out. however, this may change.
With a name like "Latter-Day Saint," it is very easy for someone to assume when you state what you believe, that you are saying what LDS doctrine is. When you stated "as for [as God the Father]having a physical body- not true" you did not state that this was your opinion, but implied that it was LDS doctrine.

What do you mean by "this might change?" Are you claiming that the LDS belief that God had a body of flesh and bones might change? If so, why?
 
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what i mean, skylark, is that i might change my mind. dont make a mountain out of a mole hill. and i've made it a habit (albeit, a bad one) to be ,shall we say, "mysterious" like that. plus when i type, i have a very poor ability of organizing my thoughts.

and, crispie, i'll agree with that.
 
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Hi "Latter-Day Saint,"

I do not believe that I have made a mountain out a mole hill. When you post under a name like "Latter-Day Saint," and then claim that it is false that God the Father has a body of flesh and bones, and don't state that this is merely your opinion, it is deceptive. I had no way of knowing if you meant that LDS doctrine might change or your beliefs might change.
 
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''As far as polytheism is concerned, I have only one God. .................I am a monotheist. I personally have only one God.
you see army is twisting words here, he's not saying that the mormon Church beleives that more than one God exists, but as many will say ''only one God with which we have to do.''

We believe in eternal progression.
Not grace.



you see mormons will say that they believe that God is all powerful, yet they don't think Jesus really did all that great a work, i mean like army said ''He was having a hard enough time getting people to be civil and compassionate.'' now tell me, jesus, who had (and still has) power over all flesh, would he really have trouble with teaching anything to people made of flesh? could it possibly be that God has the world just as he wants it, i mean didn't jesus OVER COME THE WORLD?

You will say that Christ never taught these things
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this brings me to another point, mormons teach many many things that jesus nor any apostle or prophet in the bible taught, this proves to be a big problem.

 
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When did the Mormon church stop teachings that God has parents just like we do. I was lds for many many years and I was always taught, during that time, in the lds church that "Heavenly Father" has parents just like humans do. In fact, it was taught a great deal in Seminary.
 
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Lifesaver said:
If one would only read the things (and what thing...!) that have been declared and proclaimed by the so-called Mormon "prophets" through the group's history, they'd never give conversion to it a second thought.
I agree but the problem is that it have become very fashionable these days for lds to claim that the words of their "dead" prophets are not doctrine and that those leaders were only "speaking personal opinion". Ah, the changing world of Mormonism!
 
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1- Do not MOCK my savior like that. He was having a DIFFICULT time? He explained everything with such ease, the words flowed from Christ like water. Christ did not have a hard time- it was the people who had a difficult time.

2- Do not MOCK Christ with your association with properity and worldly wealth. He is above that. I despise the fact that the mormon church uses the two hand in hand. ugh


Latter-Day Saint said:
try this on for size: if a person goes around bashing other christian churches, are they christian themselves? the answer is No.

Cry me a river.
If there was any "bashing", why dont you quote what was offensive to you; instead of just complaining? Whats ironic... is you guys say these things, but a little research into your church history will reveal the HATEFUL, PRIDEFUL, and CHRISTIAN-BASHING you seem to know so well: spouted out by your mormon church's founders.

By your definition, they are not Christian. And yes, I agree

I said:
GOD BLESS (yeah, same God...Big G and all.)

No, my God is available through Jesus Christ alone. More specifically my God IS Jesus Christ. A little reading into the NT will show that. The mormon god is not Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ himself was not a mormon. We should follow his example.

Mi Zai said:
Why are you worried about contradictions when THE BIBLE contradicts itself numerous times within it's texts. Hell, the gospels don't even agree with each other on many events.

Different perspectives are not contradictions. When religions were a dime a dozen, Christianity held fast- always growing

Crispie said:
Im not going to read a book of another religion when I can spend that time reading the Holy Bible.

Whats the harm? I find different "religious" books very fascinating. I've checked out the vedas, quaran, and the 3 mormon "bibles"... just because you read them, does not mean you have to give up the Holy Bible

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Being gay and Being Christian is in the most basic sense an Oxymoron

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it would seem to me that the phrase "gay christian" is an oxymoron. besides, if it's wrong, then it'll be on his head. if there's nothing wrong with it, so be it. being gay and a christian just doesn't seem right to me.

Whats the difference between a homosexuals temptation, and your temptation with lust? Absolutly nothing.

Someone who struggles with homosexuality can be Christian, just as much as I can struggle with lustful thoughts.

Perhaps you should restate your question, and ask how a "sinful Christian" is an oxymoron. Otherwise hush; as I'm about to take offense to your stance on the subject.
 
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FB: Pehaps you were taught this. But it was not taught from the pulpit, nor was it taught in Sunday School class nor Priesthood meeting. I have been a member for many years, and never have I heard anything about it except from those who speculate. If you were taught in Seminary, the teacher was had no right to even suggest it.
 
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Ah yes! The seminary teacher!

- Lots of good
- Heaps of personal experiences
- Plenty of personal opinion
- Little bit of false doctrine for good measure

I spend a reasonable amount of my youth Sunday School class deconstructing seminary lessons:

"Yes. The wine Jesus drank WAS alcoholic."
"No. Coke is NOT against the WoW."
 
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Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.
 
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happyinhisgrace said:
Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.
Maybe fatboys is omnipresent?
 
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happyinhisgrace said:
Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.
I was never taught that, but then I was born duing Spencer W. Kimble's service as Prophet.
 
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happyinhisgrace said:
Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.

FB: Happy, I don't know where you lived or was raised. I do know that if this teaching was given at the pulpit, the bishop would have gotten up and corrected the speaker. I know this happens because I remember one of the few times I ever went to church in my youth, that a person from another ward was giving a talk and not paying attention, I have no idea as to what he was talking about. But the bishop stopped the person and corrected him. From what I understand this went all the way up to the stake president, and the bishop had every right to do what he did. What you are saying is not correct in what we have ever taught or believed.

By the way I was just about through with college when you were born.
 
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