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I have had discussions with LDS who believe that God has parents. They made a point of stating that this is not official LDS doctrine, but that there is nothing in LDS doctrine that conflicts with the belief. The same thing was said about LDS believing that God the Father was once a man.Latter-Day Saint said:what you're dealing with is multiple issues. there is no way God has parents. like i said good mormons become like God. see my above statements. as for being ready, that is for u to decide not anyone else. as for having a physical body- not true. and he dosen't live on another planet. more tomorrow.
i agree with that. i guess a certain someone didn't have it in them to put us in another christian thread. oh, well. what are u gonna do? strike? hohohohoho. as fo my belief that God and his Son not having flesh and blood, that is what i believe, but that doesn't make it right or wrong. there's only 1 way to find out. however, this may change.Why is this discussion in the non-Christian forum? I assume that the LDS posting in this thread consider themselves to be Christians.
With a name like "Latter-Day Saint," it is very easy for someone to assume when you state what you believe, that you are saying what LDS doctrine is. When you stated "as for [as God the Father]having a physical body- not true" you did not state that this was your opinion, but implied that it was LDS doctrine.Latter-Day Saint said:as fo my belief that God and his Son not having flesh and blood, that is what i believe, but that doesn't make it right or wrong. there's only 1 way to find out. however, this may change.
Hi "Latter-Day Saint,"Latter-Day Saint said:what i mean, skylark, is that i might change my mind. dont make a mountain out of a mole hill. and i've made it a habit (albeit, a bad one) to be ,shall we say, "mysterious" like that. plus when i type, i have a very poor ability of organizing my thoughts.
and, crispie, i'll agree with that.
you see army is twisting words here, he's not saying that the mormon Church beleives that more than one God exists, but as many will say ''only one God with which we have to do.''''As far as polytheism is concerned, I have only one God. .................I am a monotheist. I personally have only one God.
Not grace.We believe in eternal progression.
You will say that Christ never taught these things. You will say they were made up by Joseph Smith. Maybe Christ was trying to teach people the simple things. Can you imagine Christ trying to teach every principle of the plan of salvation in (according to most scholars) 3 years. He was having a hard enough time getting people to be civil and compassionate. Think about what region of the world this was. They have never had prosperity.
.You will say that Christ never taught these things
The bottom line is that members are admonished to be Christ-like. Our beliefs on God/Gods is far deeper than "If I am a good boy I can be a God."you see, they are not monotheists, ask a mormon is there only one God, hos can thay have a believe about Gods or a councel of Gods if they are monotheists?
man when i tell someone what i believe, i tell them whati believe, i don't bother to say i believe in one God only and then hint at others.... are you getting the hints at polytheism?Before the earth was created what was God doing? Did he never have any other worlds before this one? Are we the only beings that were created by God? Where did God come from? I don't claim to have all the answers nor do I care for them now. It makes no difference to me in the here and now.
this is true.Christ said there was one God.he says he agrees but listen to what he says nextI agree with this.is he implying that there are other Gods that he's not concerned with?There are no other Gods that I am concerned with.
you see it is hard to understand how one calling himself christian can believe that there is more than one God when jesus said there is only one.The depth of this concept is hard to understand.
you see now he's suggesting that God lied to them to get them to believe in him (you know people often put into God traits that they themselves have)But then maybe God was trying to get them to put aside their riches and come unto him. Maybe he was dealing with idol worshiping. Some people would rather spend time watching their television than learn the teachings of Christ.
jesus said he finished the work God gave him to doChrist laid the foundation for his church and suffer and die for the sins of the world.Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail against his churchHis church was ruined by apostacy.if you believe what jesus said you can't believe in what army just saidHe brought it back to the earth through a living prophet and is bringing the fullness of his gospel to light.how many times did what he says deny the teaching and words of jesus? doesn't the anti christ deny the father and the son?I am not the antichrist.well, he can claim he believes anything he wants to, but many of his beliefs are very different to those taught in the Bible.I am a man who believes that God has a greater purpose for his children than to send them to earth to sin and then bring them to heaven to be as little children.
ok to answer you question as to why mormon aren't Christians, is perhaps the wrong end to start on it, God knows his sheep, and they all know him, and come when he calls.
i am a former mormon and what made me leave the church was the very large contradiction between what lds churches teach the people, and what is taught in the Bible. just look at what he said, if you know Gods word well, you'll see that the deception of lds doctrine is subtle, but it is definately there, they will say they believe we are saved by grace, yet they say you need to earn the grace (Grace means unmerited favor) anyhow i hope i have helped to answer you question.
also please remember that those who aren't christians are emenies of God, and thus enemies of Christians, however like jesus said and did, ''love thy enemy'' so, love the mormons, pray for them, cause only God can save them, just like anybody else.
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When did the Mormon church stop teachings that God has parents just like we do. I was lds for many many years and I was always taught, during that time, in the lds church that "Heavenly Father" has parents just like humans do. In fact, it was taught a great deal in Seminary.Latter-Day Saint said:what you're dealing with is multiple issues. there is no way God has parents. like i said good mormons become like God. see my above statements. as for being ready, that is for u to decide not anyone else. as for having a physical body- not true. and he dosen't live on another planet. more tomorrow.
I agree but the problem is that it have become very fashionable these days for lds to claim that the words of their "dead" prophets are not doctrine and that those leaders were only "speaking personal opinion". Ah, the changing world of Mormonism!Lifesaver said:If one would only read the things (and what thing...!) that have been declared and proclaimed by the so-called Mormon "prophets" through the group's history, they'd never give conversion to it a second thought.
GODS ARMY said:Can you imagine Christ trying to teach every principle of the plan of salvation in (according to most scholars) 3 years. He was having a hard enough time getting people to be civil and compassionate. Think about what region of the world this was. They have never had prosperity.
GODS ARMY said:Sorry you hate my religion so much. I guess I can only hope that hate doesn't keep you from growing closer to Christ. No, I'm sure in your eyes Christ would condone hate against those hellish mormons. Good luck with all that. If you don't believe in Christ, good luck with that too.
Latter-Day Saint said:try this on for size: if a person goes around bashing other christian churches, are they christian themselves? the answer is No.
I said:GOD BLESS (yeah, same God...Big G and all.)
Mi Zai said:Why are you worried about contradictions when THE BIBLE contradicts itself numerous times within it's texts. Hell, the gospels don't even agree with each other on many events.
Crispie said:Im not going to read a book of another religion when I can spend that time reading the Holy Bible.
Crispie said:Being gay and Being Christian is in the most basic sense an Oxymoron
Latter-Day Saint said:it would seem to me that the phrase "gay christian" is an oxymoron. besides, if it's wrong, then it'll be on his head. if there's nothing wrong with it, so be it. being gay and a christian just doesn't seem right to me.
happyinhisgrace said:When did the Mormon church stop teachings that God has parents just like we do. I was lds for many many years and I was always taught, during that time, in the lds church that "Heavenly Father" has parents just like humans do. In fact, it was taught a great deal in Seminary.
Ah yes! The seminary teacher!fatboys said:FB: Pehaps you were taught this. But it was not taught from the pulpit, nor was it taught in Sunday School class nor Priesthood meeting. I have been a member for many years, and never have I heard anything about it except from those who speculate. If you were taught in Seminary, the teacher was had no right to even suggest it.
Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.fatboys said:FB: Pehaps you were taught this. But it was not taught from the pulpit, nor was it taught in Sunday School class nor Priesthood meeting. I have been a member for many years, and never have I heard anything about it except from those who speculate. If you were taught in Seminary, the teacher was had no right to even suggest it.
Maybe fatboys is omnipresent?happyinhisgrace said:Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.
I was never taught that, but then I was born duing Spencer W. Kimble's service as Prophet.happyinhisgrace said:Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.
Well, you can't be much older or younger than me then. I am only 31.GOD'S ARMY said:I was never taught that, but then I was born duing Spencer W. Kimble's service as Prophet.
happyinhisgrace said:Of course it was taught from the "pulpit" in sacrement meetings and it was taught to me in Sunday school. I find it funny that you claim it was never taught in these places when I know for a FACT that it was.
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