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Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by drstevej, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    When you sing this:

    If you could hie to Kolob
    In the twinkling of an eye,
    And then continue onward
    With that same speed to fly,
    Do you think that you could ever,
    Through all eternity,
    Find out the generation
    Where Gods began to be?​

    are you singing heresy? Did Gods have a beginning?
     
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    Phoebe Ann From Mormonism to Christ Supporter

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  3. He is the way

    He is the way Well-Known Member

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    According to the Bible Jesus did:

    (New Testament | Philippians 2:5 - 6)

    5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
    6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
     
  4. Phoebe Ann

    Phoebe Ann From Mormonism to Christ Supporter

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    Of course Jesus is God, not a God. All Christians believe in the Trinity.


    There is only one God, but the chorus to the Mormons' hymn praising Joseph Smith says:
    “Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven! Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain. Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren; Death cannot conquer the hero again.”
    W. W. Phelps, “Praise to the Man”
     
  5. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Was Heavenly Mom equal with God?
     
  6. BigDaddy4

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    That does not support the song lyrics of "Where Gods began to be?"

    Where did your gods begin to be? Where did those that sit on the council of the gods (i.e., Grand Council or Council in Heaven) begin to be?
     
  7. He is the way

    He is the way Well-Known Member

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    Good question, you should pray about it.
     
  8. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Non answer. Please answer from LDS position
     
  9. He is the way

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    Perhaps millions or billions of years ago. The Bible does not say and I don't have that information, but I like this scripture:
    (Old Testament | Psalms 82:1)

    1 GOD standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
     
  10. Peter1000

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    The writer asked the question: Do you think you could find the generation when the Gods began to be?

    He answers the question later in the song, and the answer is: no man will ever find pure space. IOW, no.

    God our Father will continue forever and ever, worlds without number and He will continue to create for ever and ever creations without number. And His work and His glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man. Some men will only receive immortality, but some will receive eternal life, which is life with God the Father, and in order to be in His presence and withstand His glory, we will have to be just like Him.
     
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    The Bible states that Eve is in the image of God, but that would not be the image of the Father. So I believe it must have been God the Mother. God being a Father and His wife being a Mother both being equal.:

    (Old Testament | Genesis 1:26 - 27)

    26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
     
  12. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Ok, then is God the Mother to be worshiped? Do you worship her (or Her) ?
     
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    God seen fit to keep Her name sacred and not to reveal it. He has His reasons, so, no we do not worship her.
     
  14. drstevej

    drstevej Light Attracts Bugs Staff Member Chaplain Supporter

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    Do you know any LDS who do worship Her?
     
  15. mmksparbud

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    How many Gods does that make---many long before God the Father---to His father and His father to who knows how far back and then forward to all the gods that will be coming after.

    Isa_43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
     
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  16. He is the way

    He is the way Well-Known Member

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    No.
     
  17. He is the way

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    Yes Jesus Christ is and was the God of Israel:
    (Old Testament | Isaiah 43:10 - 11)

    10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
    11 I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
     
  18. mmksparbud

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    Yes--but you claim there are many gods before God the Father--for He had a Father also (I assume a mother also) and he had a father and that one had a father and.....
    Then we can become gods and those that we give birth too and....
    So you're into millions of Gods right about now. God the Father you view as only the God of this earth.
     
  19. BigDaddy4

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    The Bible actually does say. See Isaiah 43:10 for instance.

    “You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.
     
  20. BigDaddy4

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    Unfortunately, the Bible does not support your position.
     
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