LDS Beliefs...true or false

[Frankie]

I don't mind.

We still haven't found a church home yet. Living here in the south, most everyone is Southern Baptist. I like the "congregationalist" atmosphere of the baptist church (you do never know what you are going to get from one church to the next). We are rather conservative in our beliefs. We attended a small Baptist Church in town for a while, but didn't like the politics or behind the scenes jockeying.

Right now our kids (I have 5) are involved in a youth group at a large Baptist church. I also actually own a 150 year old church building outside of town. About 25 or so people have been getting together Sunday afternoons for praise and worship (I play guitar). We also have a regular bible study we attend.

I would like a more formal "church home" but haven't found it yet. It will happen when it is supposed to.

Thanks,

Chris <><

Yes, God will put you where He wants you. What other Christian churches, besides the SB do they have down there in the South?

God Bless,
Frankie (who has never lived in the South)

 

[christopher123]

Yes, God will put you where He wants you. What other Christian churches, besides the SB do they have down there in the South?

God Bless,
Frankie (who has never lived in the South)

Besides the dozens and dozens of baptist churches, we have several pentacostal (which I am not) and then one each of the ususal methodist, episcopal, catholic, presbytarian, and lutheran. We even have a kingdom hall.

Chris <><

 

[fatboys]

fatboys, asking another question is not an answer to a previous question.

Thanks but no thanks for the non-answer.

Any other lds out there willing to answer me question rather than just ask a different question? Thanks ahead of time.

FB: Some answers are too simple and I want you to at least think about a question and the answer to it. That way you won't have ask more simple questions to which there are just too simple of answers you won't believe anyway.

 

[emerald Dragon]

Ok, I have seen a great deal of "we don't believe that" and "yes, you do believe that" going back and forth so..... I am going to make a list of things that I understand to be beliefs and teachings within the lds church and you all can tell me if I am right or wrong and if I am wrong, please provide the contrary teaching that shows this. Thank You. (this list is long and not just a list of things I have learned on this forum but from other lds and web-sites also)

Thank you for attempting to learn, without insulting. I greatly appreciate that.

Thanks!

1. man can become gods, not God the father but gods of their own.

No official declaration, as I understand it, but this is how I see it. We can become gods, or perfected beings, but God will alwasy be higher than we are.

2. God the father will always be "more progressed" then the man that becomes a god because God the father has been a god longer and is more progressed.

Don't know this one.

3. Marital relationships that are sealed in the lds temples will continue after death if the "sealed" couple lives the lds commandments.

Yes. This is true.

4. Christians outside the lds church are still Christians but they are Christians that don't have the full "truth" to get them to eternal life with God the father.

Yes... and no. They can still be sent to great glory, but it is my understanding that in order to live in the physical presence of God in the Eternities, then one has to obey all His commandments-in other words, become a LDS, essentially.

5. Water baptism is required to make it to the highest level of glory in the kingdoms.

Very true. It is one of the most essential things. Higer, of course, is acceptance of Christ as our personal Lord and Savior.

6. One must be sealed to a spouse in the lds temple to make it to the highest level in the highest degree of glory.

To my understanding, yes. If not in this life, than in the next. We will all be given an opporutnity.

7. People who did not hear the lds gospel in this life are given a chance in a spirit prison in the next life to hear the lds gospel and reject it or accept it.

Yes. God does not condemn people without their having an opportunity. He is a God of order and opportunity. We are all given he same opportunity to accept or reject His gospel, and Him.

8. Those who reject the lds gospel recieve one of the lower kingdoms of glory for eternity and do not go to the celestial (highest kingdom) to live with God forever.

This just makes me slightly uncomfortable due to wording, but I am probably just over-reacting. It isn’t “LDS Gospel”, but the gospel and the laws of the Lord. He set them down. Everyone will live in God’s spiritual presence in all three kingdoms, but not His physical. In the second highest (terrestrial kingdom), those there will live with the physical presence of the Holy Ghost and Christ, and those in the lowest (telestial kingdom) will live with only the physical presence of the Holy Ghost.

9. How you follow the lds commandments determines what level of kingdom you will spend eternity in.

Again, nitpicking, but not LDS commandments, but God’s. It is not how well you follow them, but your heart, and how well you want to keep them, how well you try to keep them, and how well your heart says so. You actions don’t show it, but your heart does.

10. There is good to be found in all religions, not just Christian ones. All belief systems have a "form" of truth.

Yes, very much so. God has worked through many people throughout history, bringing enlightenment to all, in many forms.

11. All religions, even non-Christian ones ,worship the same god, some just interpert him differently.

I don’t think that this is doctrine, but this is my personal view. There is only one God, so either they worship Him, or thy do not. I feel that those who worship a God, like Muslims and Allah, are worshiping the same God, but see Him slightly different than others do. Much like LDS and mainstream Christianity.

12. The Christian creeds that teach of a trinune God are an abomination to God but the lds creed of the Articles of faith, is God's truth.

This I don’t know.

13. God is not a triune God that is 3 persons in one being but rather is 3 seperate beings that serve one purpose.

Yes. They are physically separate from each other. They are not the same person who shows three different facets of Himself, but three individuals. However, all three are God in nature, if not completely in name. Christ is not His Father incarnate, but Christ is God in nature.

14. The prophets of the lds church are only prophets when they say they are (speaking as prophets) and their words are not the words from God unless the prophet is speaking as a prophet and says that what he is stating is from God.

“A prophet is only a prophet when he is acting as such” This is a quote I go by. Many times, such as at General Conference, the prophet teaches us from the scripture. At those times, he then can be considered a prophet, and those words can be considered doctrine. When he is speaking as a man, and is giving opinions on something, then he is only a man, and not acting in the capacity of prophet. Generally he may not say when he is doing which, but we are to determine for ourselves when he is and isn’t. Usually it is easy. Other times it isn’t, as is obvious by comments on this site.

15. LDS temple works can only be performed in lds temples, not in regular church houses.

True. These are special ceremonies, and are not to be taken lightly. These are special buildings dedicated to the Lord.

16. LDS build temples that are lavish and expensive because they believe God requires it that way.

Actually we do that to bring out the glory of the world, and make it look as much of a symbol of the glory of the heavens. God doesn’t require that much, but it is to bring a sense of the glory of God to earth. Temples now are being less expensive and less lavish, but still beautiful, and “celestial”.

17. LDS consider those who speak out against their churches teachings to be doing the devils work and to be bitter or ignorant people with an agenda rooted in hatred.

Yes, they do. This is in part arrogance, and opinion dervired from teachings. If you believed you were the True Church, wouldn’t you consider those who try to bring you down working for the devil, at least in a miniscule way?

18. No one can know if they are really saved to heaven or not until "the judgement day", they can only do their best and hope it was good enough.

We’ll know. It is ourselves that put us where we are to go, so we’ll at least have a very good idea where we are going. True, the final judgment is when we get put where we are going, but we should have an idea of how much we did or didn’t do-and not just actions, but in our hearts as well.

19. That the Bible has many many errors in it and that God did not preserve it with the full messege He intended, therefore other "books" are required.

Minor errors, but errors nonetheless. Other books are necessary to gain the fullness of the gospel that God wants us to have. He also continues to reveal things, so they become scripture.

20. That the BofM is a history of people who came from Isreal to the Americas.

True. That is very true.

21. That the garden of Eden was orginally where Jackson County Missouri, USA is now.

To my understanding, yes.

22. When Jesus returns, He will have His temple in Jackson County Missouri where the LDS believe is the New Jeruselem.

To my understanding, yes.

23. The lds and all who come to the lds church are God's chosen people.

All who accept His gospel are His chosen people.

My response was getting too long, so I'm cutting it in half...


God Bless,
Emerald Dragon

 

[emerald Dragon]

...And continuing with the second half:

24. Everyone will recieve a ressurected eternal body and will go to one of the lds kingdoms of glory when they die or to outerdarkness.

Everyone is resurrected, and everyone goes to some degree of glory in the Eterites, but that isn’t until after the Final Judgement, after the Millenium, after the Second Coming.

25. The only people that will go to eternal hell (which is called outerdarkness) are those that had the "fullness of the lds gospel" and then denied it.

Those who knew God with an asurity, and then deny Him. Not LDS gospel.

26. Hell is not a litteral place of fire and eternal torment but rather a state of mind of knowing you could have had more.

To my understanding yes. It is a place of Eternal torment without the light of God. That is supreme torture.

27. It is ok when you are lds, to investigate and attend other churches, as long as you don't speak out against the lds church or it's teachings.

Never hear of this one.

28. The lds church is the only church that has true authority from God to baptize and call people to church services. Baptisms and callings from other sources have no authority and are not valid.

Only the Church has the Authority to use the Preisthood of God to permorm certain odinances that God deems needed.

29. Members of the lds church are required to prove to the leadership of the church, that they have repented of a sin before the leadership will consider them worthy of blessings such as temple recommends, church callings, and in some cases, church membership.

Yes and no. We are commanded to test ourselves, to determine our own worthiness. While the leadership of the Church does determine your worthiness, it is through prayer and guidance from the Lord, mostly. The interview is also a way from them to help us if we need it in overcoming certain vices and sins that we may have.

30. If you are a Christian, you only have the Holy Spirit now and then but you do not have the HOly Spirit to live within you until you are confirmed a member of the LDS church by lds priesthood holders.

To my understanding, yes.

31. The holy spirit will leave you if you sin.

True, the Holy Ghost cannot live in un-clean vessels. ON earth, to my understanding, cleanlieness is definied not by how well you keep the commandments, but by how well you try to keep them.

32. Those who truly have Jesus or want truth, will become lds.

Never heard of this one.

33. Feelings are a determining factor of truth.

No. It is the Holy Ghost. He will manifest the truth to us, in a way that we will know. It is not through, neccessairly, mortal feelings, but feelings that you can tell come from God, and God alone.

34. The lds Word of Wisdom is more a suggestion than a commandment but you must follow some parts of it to recieve an lds temple recommend.

Yes and no. The main reason for keeping the word of Wisdom is to keep our bodies clean and pure. Our bodies are temples of the Holy Ghost, a creation and a gift from God, and we shouldn’t defile it. We also shouldn’t allow the body to control the soul or the mind through chemicals or vices that we may have.

35. Jesus did not pay the price for sin in full to all who come to him but rather just made it possible for all man to recieve a ressurected body and obtain eternal progression through their obeying of the lds commandments.

Oh, He payed for the full price of sin all right. If He didn’, it wouldn’t matter how much you obeyed the commandment, you couldn’t repent. Yes we must keep the commandments, but without Christ, that wouldn’t do a bit of good.

36. Jesus is the litteral son of God and God the Father is not spirit but rather flesh and bone like Jesus and has a spirit.

True. Both God and Christ have a physical body. But God did not have sex with Mary to produce Christ. It was with the power of the Holy Ghost that Mary conceived Christ. Otherwise Mary wouldn’t have been a virgin.

37. All mankind are the litteral spirit children of God and lived with Him as spirits in a pre-existance before coming to earth.

Yes.

38. All man kind is eternal, not that God alone existed before any and everything else. That all man existed as a form of intellegence before God took their intellegence and formed it into spirits and later into earthly man.

This I am unclear of.

39. That angels are not a seperate creation from humanity but rather are spirit children of God or ressurected men.

To my understanding yes. Angels are messengers and servants of God.

40. Teachings of past lds leaders are to be considered only opinion if they contradict current lds teachings and beliefs.

That depends. If a new teaching tells us to not follow the past teaching, then yes (like polygamy)

41. LDS do not consider the face of baal, the inverted pentagram or the goats head to be pagan or satanic symbols but rather believe they have a different meaning and use them in carvings on some of their temples. (SLC and Nahvoo temples)

Never heard of the face of baal, but I’ll bite on this one. All symbols on the temples have meanings that the saints had. They are not satanic, or cultic, but spiritual and Christ-like in meaning. Other people may see a different meaning, but they retain the meaning that was given to them by the ones who put them on the temples.

42. LDS believe that man can work toward perfection.

We can try, and we are to try, but perfection is only attained through God in the end.

43. Believe that Christ atoned for the sins of man in the Garden of Gethsemane but "the job was finished" when he died on the cross.

Yes, to my understanding. In the Garden, Christ took the sins of the world on Him. He then had to dies, to help pay for it, but He spiritually paid for it in the Garden.

44. Believe that faith is a work and one must prove to God that they have true faith in Him.

Conversely, actually. True faith is when one follows the laws and commandments. One does not do works to prove their faith, but to gain a futher faith in Him.

45. Believe that R rated movies are not to be watched but cartoons of half naked women are not just ok, but bring glory to God (LOLOLO, that one I threw in as a funny for spike and A_S's benefit)

That’s funny. J

46. Believe that those who are in the Celestial kingdom will be able to "go down" and visit those in the lower kingdoms but those in the lower kingdoms will not be able to leave their "state of glory" to visit those in higher kingdoms.

To my understainding, yes.

47. only those who have proven that they are worthy are allowed to attend the lds temple and recieve the "higher" teachings of "the gospel".

Yes. They have to be worthy, in the sense that they are trying to obey God in all things.

Ok, those are the ones I can think of right now. If more come to mind, I will add them.

Anyway, I am interested to see how right or how wrong I am on these.

God Bless,
Frankie

There’s my answers. Thanks for asking the questions. I hope that my answers have helped.



God Bless,

Emerald Dragon

 

[Frankie]

Besides the dozens and dozens of baptist churches, we have several pentacostal (which I am not) and then one each of the ususal methodist, episcopal, catholic, presbytarian, and lutheran. We even have a kingdom hall.

Chris <><

I heard that there were quite a few "Church of Christ" in the South also. What say you?

Frankie

 

[Frankie]

Thanks for you answers ED.

God Bless,
Frankie

 

[christopher123]

I heard that there were quite a few "Church of Christ" in the South also. What say you?

Frankie

There is one here. They just had a split in November. The pastor left and formed another church a couple of blocks away with about half the congregation.


Chris <><

 

[Rescued One]

FB:
During the time of Christ when doctrines needed claraity they debated, and then voted on the understanding. This was the perscribed method of understanding doctrine.

How do you know this?

I know, I have not been in your shoes, but surely you had experiences while you were in the church that solidified your testimony. I know I have had many experiences which, if I left, would be mocking God.

What kind of experiences are you talking about?

 

[Visage of Glory]

1. man can become gods, not God the father but gods of their own.

Yes.

2. God the father will always be "more progressed" then the man that becomes a god because God the father has been a god longer and is more progressed.

Close enough.

3. Marital relationships that are sealed in the lds temples will continue after death if the "sealed" couple lives the lds commandments.

For sure.

4. Christians outside the lds church are still Christians but they are Christians that don't have the full "truth" to get them to eternal life with God the father.

It depends on your definition of Christian, but basically true.

5. Water baptism is required to make it to the highest level of glory in the kingdoms.

Really close, but it must be a water baptism by IMMERSION.

6. One must be sealed to a spouse in the lds temple to make it to the highest level in the highest degree of glory.

Yes.

7. People who did not hear the lds gospel in this life are given a chance in a spirit prison in the next life to hear the lds gospel and reject it or accept it.

You bet.

8. Those who reject the lds gospel recieve one of the lower kingdoms of glory for eternity and do not go to the celestial (highest kingdom) to live with God forever.

Yes.

9. How you follow the lds commandments determines what level of kingdom you will spend eternity in.

Sorta. Your commitment to God shown by your obedience and a Judgement by the Lord will determine which kingdom you recieve.

10. There is good to be found in all religions, not just Christian ones. All belief systems have a "form" of truth.

I don't think "all" religions have a good in them, but most.

11. All religions, even non-Christian ones ,worship the same god, some just interpert him differently.

I definitely don't believe this.

12. The Christian creeds that teach of a trinune God are an abomination to God but the lds creed of the Articles of faith, is God's truth.

Well, it is probably the best explanation humans can understand yes.

13. God is not a triune God that is 3 persons in one being but rather is 3 seperate beings that serve one purpose.

yeah.

14. The prophets of the lds church are only prophets when they say they are (speaking as prophets) and their words are not the words from God unless the prophet is speaking as a prophet and says that what he is stating is from God.

Yeah, basically. Surely not every word spoken by a prophet is prophetic.

15. LDS temple works can only be performed in lds temples, not in regular church houses.

Now, yes.

16. LDS build temples that are lavish and expensive because they believe God requires it that way.

I am not sure the reasoning behind it, but I think it is to honor God.

17. LDS consider those who speak out against their churches teachings to be doing the devils work and to be bitter or ignorant people with an agenda rooted in hatred.

Only those you are viscious and hateful in their speech, at least that is how I feel. I don't think everyone on this forum that is against the Church has evil intentions, but I am sure there are some exceptions.

18. No one can know if they are really saved to heaven or not until "the judgement day", they can only do their best and hope it was good enough.

Not quite. The calling and election can make it quite clear that you will reach Celestial Glory as long as you continue on God's path.

19. That the Bible has many many errors in it and that God did not preserve it with the full messege He intended, therefore other "books" are required.

Not "many, many," but a few. But I don't see how "another testament" of Jesus Christ can hurt. His deeds and Word are many, and I see no reason that they should be contained to the Bible.
John 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

20. That the BofM is a history of people who came from Isreal to the Americas.

For all intent and purposes, yeah.

21. That the garden of Eden was orginally where Jackson County Missouri, USA is now.

Uhuh.

22. When Jesus returns, He will have His temple in Jackson County Missouri where the LDS believe is the New Jeruselem.

Adam-ondi-ahman actually, which is in Davis County Missouri.

23. The lds and all who come to the lds church are God's chosen people.

Essentially. They become part of the house of Israel, which is God's Chosen people.

24. Everyone will recieve a ressurected eternal body and will go to one of the lds kingdoms of glory when they die or to outerdarkness.

Ressurrected Immortal body, yeah.

25. The only people that will go to eternal hell (which is called outerdarkness) are those that had the "fullness of the lds gospel" and then denied it.

Well. I do recall that in D&C the Telestial kingdom is referred to as hell as well, so not quite. But, yes, all those who blasphemy against the Holy Ghost will go to Outer Darkness.

26. Hell is not a litteral place of fire and eternal torment but rather a state of mind of knowing you could have had more.

Not what I believe. They will suffer even as Jesus suffered. They will suffer "eternal punishment" which is God's punishment. (D&C 19).

27. It is ok when you are lds, to investigate and attend other churches, as long as you don't speak out against the lds church or it's teachings.

It is not ok to apostasize, but just fine to visit other churches.

28. The lds church is the only church that has true authority from God to baptize and call people to church services. Baptisms and callings from other sources have no authority and are not valid.

Yup.

29. Members of the lds church are required to prove to the leadership of the church, that they have repented of a sin before the leadership will consider them worthy of blessings such as temple recommends, church callings, and in some cases, church membership.

Not exactly. They must find themselves reconciled to themselves, the proper authority and God.

30. If you are a Christian, you only have the Holy Spirit now and then but you do not have the HOly Spirit to live within you until you are confirmed a member of the LDS church by lds priesthood holders.

They have the power of the Holy Ghost, but not the Gift.

31. The holy spirit will leave you if you sin.

Close enough.

32. Those who truly have Jesus or want truth, will become lds.

Not always. They may not have the ability. But they will get the chance after death.

33. Feelings are a determining factor of truth.

Nope. Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth.

34. The lds Word of Wisdom is more a suggestion than a commandment but you must follow some parts of it to recieve an lds temple recommend.

It is a commandment now.

35. Jesus did not pay the price for sin in full to all who come to him but rather just made it possible for all man to recieve a ressurected body and obtain eternal progression through their obeying of the lds commandments.

I think of it more like Jesus has paid the price for sin in full, but we are trying, usually feebly, to repay him.

36. Jesus is the literal son of God and God the Father is not spirit but rather flesh and bone like Jesus and has a spirit.

Well, there are two things here, but I find them both acceptable.

37. All mankind are the litteral spirit children of God and lived with Him as spirits in a pre-existance before coming to earth.

Yep. And this even includes Lucifer and all his angels.

38. All man kind is eternal, not that God alone existed before any and everything else. That all man existed as a form of intellegence before God took their intellegence and formed it into spirits and later into earthly man.

This is a sketchy area, so I won't fight you on anything here.

39. That angels are not a seperate creation from humanity but rather are spirit children of God or ressurected men.

Show me in the bible where it says differently.

40. Teachings of past lds leaders are to be considered only opinion if they contradict current lds teachings and beliefs

.
I guess, but that does not mean they should just be thrown out of the window either. They were still prophets.

41. LDS do not consider the face of baal, the inverted pentagram or the goats head to be pagan or satanic symbols but rather believe they have a different meaning and use them in carvings on some of their temples. (SLC and Nahvoo temples)

I am one of those you have not seen or even heard much about that.

42. LDS believe that man can work toward perfection.

Sure, but they can never reach it without the Grace of Jesus Christ.

43. Believe that Christ atoned for the sins of man in the Garden of Gethsemene but "the job was finished" when he died on the cross.

Good enough, but I think I might even venture to say that Christ's whole life and existence was the atonement.

44. Believe that faith is a work and one must prove to God that they have true faith in Him.

No, faith is why we do works.

45. Believe that R rated movies are not to be watched but cartoons of half naked women are not just ok, but bring glory to God (LOLOLO, that one I threw in as a funny for spike and A_S's benefit)

I have no idea what you are talking about. However, it is not just rated R movies. It is any "entertainment that is vulgar, immoral, violent, or pornographic in any way." It just happens that Rated R movies usually contain one or more of these elements heavily.

46. Believe that those who are in the Celestial kingdom will be able to "go down" and visit those in the lower kingdoms but those in the lower kingdoms will not be able to leave their "state of glory" to visit those in higher kingdoms.

I believe this.

47. only those who have proven that they are worthy are allowed to attend the lds temple and recieve the "higher" teachings of "the gospel".

Yup.

Pretty good list there, Frankie. Most of them were fairly accurate.

 

[Frankie]

VofG, thanks for your answers.


Frankie

 

[fatboys]

fatboys, asking another question is not an answer to a previous question.

Thanks but no thanks for the non-answer.

Any other lds out there willing to answer me question rather than just ask a different question? Thanks ahead of time.

FB: I gave you enough information to answer it yourself

 

[fatboys]

fatboys, asking another question is not an answer to a previous question.

Thanks but no thanks for the non-answer.

Any other lds out there willing to answer me question rather than just ask a different question? Thanks ahead of time.

FB: When a prophet is called after the death of one, it is done as it was anciently. The quorum of the Twelve unanimously choose another. After they choose, it goes through the process of sustaining new doctrine. We all vote to sustain him as prophet seer and revelator. This is not a vote as in political elections, but to accept or reject him as our prophet. If we accept him, and sustain him then we covenant with God to follow the prophet as he follows God. Just like they did anciently.

 

[Rescued One]

FB: I gave you enough information to answer it yourself

Why don't you humor Frankie and just answer the question yourself? It's so much easier that way.

 

[fatboys]

Why don't you humor Frankie and just answer the question yourself? It's so much easier that way.

FB: I believe that if you find your own answers, it means more. I know that when I am studying the gospel and I read about a conclusion about truths that someone else's is exactly what I believe, it gives me great comfort. To know that the restoration can be revealed to a lowly person as myself, is just fantastic.

 

[carolbob]

To lds, I would like to elaborate on a couple of questions if I might?

1. When you sin and the Holy Spirit leaves you, what kind of sin are we talking about? How do you get the HS back?

2. If a couple does not get "sealed" in this lifetime, they get "sealed" in the next? How does that happen?

3. If only married people can obtain the highest level of heaven, what about babies or people that died to young to get married or didn't get married at all?

Thanks in advance.

 

[fatboys]

To lds, I would like to elaborate on a couple of questions if I might?

1. When you sin and the Holy Spirit leaves you, what kind of sin are we talking about? How do you get the HS back?

FB: I think it matters as to intent and change of heart towards obedience. It varies with each person and a person who has more knowledge and spiritually more in tune with the spirit, and then goes against that light may not have to seriously sin for the spirit to leave. For LDS, we believe that the authority to give the gift of the Holy Ghost has been restored. This gift does not leave you and is a constant companion to you no matter how much you sin, unless you sin against the Holy Ghost. What does often happens is that when a person sins, they listen less to the spirit. The more they sin the less they listen. You know people that no matter what you say to them they don't ever listen. That is the way it is with the gift of the Holy Ghost. Where as a person who does not have this gift has to invite the Holy Ghost into their lives. If the person does commit sin the spirit does with draw.

2. If a couple does not get "sealed" in this lifetime, they get "sealed" in the next? How does that happen?

FB: Lets say that you died before you were sealed to your husband/wife. Because we believe that the authority to bind in heave what is bound on earth has been restored, a person who has faith in this restored power can stand in for you by proxy and be sealed for you. This is done in the Temple.

3. If only married people can obtain the highest level of heaven, what about babies or people that died to young to get married or didn't get married at all?

FB: After the second coming of Christ, there will be a thousand years that Christ will reign on the earth. During this time all Temple work will be done, and those who died young will be given the chance to be married by proxy to someone.

Thanks in advance. [/QUOTE]

 

[Frankie]

FB: When a prophet is called after the death of one, it is done as it was anciently. The quorum of the Twelve unanimously choose another. After they choose, it goes through the process of sustaining new doctrine. We all vote to sustain him as prophet seer and revelator. This is not a vote as in political elections, but to accept or reject him as our prophet. If we accept him, and sustain him then we covenant with God to follow the prophet as he follows God. Just like they did anciently.

can you direct me to the scriptures that talk of the above being the way a prophet was chosen anciently. Thanks.

 

[fatboys]

can you direct me to the scriptures that talk of the above being the way a prophet was chosen anciently. Thanks.

FB: Each time a prophet is called is not exactly the same. Only after Christ, who went and said come follow me did they gather amoung themselves and choose a replacment. It is in Acts. Is this how you choose the leaders of your church?

 

[Frankie]

FB: Each time a prophet is called is not exactly the same. Only after Christ, who went and said come follow me did they gather amoung themselves and choose a replacment. It is in Acts. Is this how you choose the leaders of your church?

fatboys, you said:

FB: When a prophet is called after the death of one, it is done as it was anciently. The quorum of the Twelve unanimously choose another. After they choose, it goes through the process of sustaining new doctrine. We all vote to sustain him as prophet seer and revelator. This is not a vote as in political elections, but to accept or reject him as our prophet. If we accept him, and sustain him then we covenant with God to follow the prophet as he follows God. Just like they did anciently.

I then asked you if you could show me where in the Bible it teaches that this is how it was done "anciently". Can you tell me where exactly in the Books of Acts it says this? And can you show me anywhere else, such as the OT, which was full of prophets, where it speaks of this being the way it was done (especially considering there was often more than one prophet at a time)? After you show me where this is spoken of exactly, I can read it for myself, in context and then tell you if "this is how "my" church does it".

Frankie