Lawyers say they can't find the parents of 545 migrant children separated by Trump administration

[JosephZ]

Lawyers appointed by a federal judge to identify migrant families who were separated by the Trump administration say they have yet to track down the parents of 545 children, and that approximately two-thirds of those parents were deported to Central America without their children, according to a filing from the ACLU on Tuesday.

Lawyers: We can't find parents of 545 kids separated by Trump admin

They never should have been separated from their parents in the first place. Very sad.

 

[JackRT]

Lawyers: We can't find parents of 545 kids separated by Trump admin

This is a crime against humanity by a nation which supposedly stands for the exact opposite. No effort should be spared in either reuniting the families or ensuring that any who cannot be reunited are actually given a real chance at a normal life.

 

[public hermit]

This is no good. The ones who have adamantly supported this administration need to be the ones pushing back and calling this what is it, egregious.

 

[JackRT]

I am dead serious. This is an actual crime against humanity and should be prosecuted as such under international law.

 

[FireDragon76]

This was no ordinary mistake. The cruelty was a feature, not a bug.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

How do we know the adults attempting to smuggle them across the border were really their parents? Without documentation, how can we?

 

[SeventyOne]

It sucks, but the separation of children at the border started under Clinton, and (unusual for a Democrat) it was for a good reason, to help fight human trafficking. Not to mention, it's a regular practice for parents to rent their children out to those crossing the border to make their dealings with border patrol easier if they get caught. The story doesn't say how many of these children were rentals or victims of trafficking. It's probably the case many were victims long before hitting the border. And for those who weren't, shame for the parents placing their children in that situation, to begin with. Sorry, but if one's first instinct is to not blame the parents for their abusive actions, then that person is a horrible individual inside.

 

[royal priest]

This is no good. The ones who have adamantly supported this administration need to be the ones pushing back and calling this what is it, egregious.

I blame the parents for putting their children at risk.

 

[JackRT]

It sucks, but the separation of children at the border started under Clinton, and (unusual for a Democrat) it was for a good reason, to help fight human trafficking. Not to mention, it's a regular practice for parents to rent their children out to those crossing the border to make their dealings with border patrol easier if they get caught. The story doesn't say how many of these children were rentals or victims of trafficking. It's probably the case many were victims long before hitting the border. And for those who weren't, shame for the parents placing their children in that situation, to begin with. Sorry, but if one's first instinct is to not blame the parents for their abusive actions, then that person is a horrible individual inside.

It may well be that some of these parents may be guilty of abusive actions --- that is an allegation not yet in fact. The crime against humanity is that these children are still in custody without their parents with no real expectation that they will ever be reunited. This was government policy and it was criminal.

 

[public hermit]

I blame the parents for putting their children at risk.

You mean at risk of a government that will seperate them practically forever? So, there's no culpability for a government that seperates parents from children with no hope of bringing them back together again? Is our ability to treat others humanely somehow contingent on whether they act responsibly?

It seems to me, if we value family, we will do whatever is in our power to maintain the family unit. Moreover, since we took it upon ourselves to seperate them, the culpability of bringing them back together rests with us.

 

[royal priest]

You mean at risk of a government that will seperate them practically forever? So, there's no culpability for a government that seperates parents from children with no hope of bringing them back together again? Is our ability to treat others humanely somehow contingent on whether they act responsibly?

It seems to me, if we value family, we will do whatever is in our power to maintain the family unit. Moreover, since we took it upon ourselves to seperate them, the culpability of bringing them back together rests with us.

If the parents didn't break the law, then this wouldn't happen.

 

[public hermit]

If the parents didn't break the law, then this wouldn't happen.

It's not a necessary causal chain. There is an active agent (i.e. US gov't) that chose to separate the families. Yes, I agree that they broke the law. I don't agree that their breaking the law somehow absolves our gov't from acting humanely and doing what is in the better interest of the family qua family.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

It may well be that some of these parents may be guilty of abusive actions

In such a case, it may better for the children not to be reunited with them.

 

[NxNW]

If the parents didn't break the law, then this wouldn't happen.

It's not against the law to seek asylum.

 

[Kenny'sID]

Trump bad, Trump bad, Trump bad, then the whole truth comes out, where Trump may not be so bad after all.

Classic.

 

[Jimmy D]

Trump bad, Trump bad, Trump bad, then the whole truth comes out, where Trump may not be so bad after all.

Classic.

A very insightful contribution.

What “truth” are you waiting that might justify breaking up families like this?

 

[MIDutch]

A very insightful contribution.

What “truth” are you waiting that might justify breaking up families like this?

Maybe stoning disobedient children to death or something like that.

 

[Mayzoo]

If the parents didn't break the law, then this wouldn't happen.

The adults broke the law. That of course justifies jailing the children indefinitely and without a chance of being reunited with their parents at some time in the future.

So, when will you and those who support this action, start advocating for this just action to be implemented in the United States? Shoplifting, use of drugs, speeding, tax evasion, etc? Jail the offender and their children for an unstated amount of time. The child can be assured they will spend longer interned than the parent (after all the sins of the father fall to the son anyway, and to not be sexist, we should foist the sins of both parents onto the children, right?) The child can also be reasonably assured they will likely never see their parent again once they are released from jail.

When will this plan hit the ballots here in the US or will congress just intact it without out us involved?

 

[FireDragon76]

If the parents didn't break the law, then this wouldn't happen.

That's called legalism, and it's ultimately anti-intellectual. Laws aren't justified by themselves, they need to appeal to some kind of recognized moral principle. And it's hard to see what's so moral about tearing apart families just because their parents were trying to seek asylum in the US.

 

[Kenny'sID]

A very insightful contribution.

What “truth” are you waiting that might justify breaking up families like this?

What an odd question...you answer it.