Salvation is God making you personally righteous, impossible if not for the blood of Jesus. That is to be under grace, living by the Spirit. When understood correctly, Paul taught justification apart from legalism. That is to be under the law, living by my own, non-spiritual efforts.The reason you quote all your verses out of context, is because you are not familiar with "Justification BY faith, without works".
See, everything you write, which can be said for Clare73, and Bnr32fan, is total, self, effort.
It has nothing to do with Salvation.
Salvation is not you keeping Law, but its God making you righteous, based only on the BLood of Jesus.
That is incorrect, God's love is unconditional. God gave the life of His Son in order to reconcile you to Himself. There is nothing you could have done to add to that reconciliation. In fact, you did not exist when that reconciliation was performed.What do you think this verse means? All the verses you quoted are conditional.
We have multiple sets of commandments in the scripture. Commandments given to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and commandments given by Jesus to His disciples.If you believe in Jesus you will believe Him when He says If you love Me, keep My commandments.
Jesus fulfilled the law and introduced a new covenant. With that new covenant Jesus gave His new commandments. The verse (Matthew 5:17-20) was before the new covenant, once the law was fulfilled. The law was no longer valid.John 14:15 and Jesus said He did not come to destroy God’s laws Mathew 5:17-20.
I am not trying to secure a place in heaven, Jesus has already secured the places in heaven. For all those who believe in Him.If you think lawlessness is righteous and will secure your place in Heaven
Love is the goal of all the Christian instruction. Your disobedience is not loving others as Christ loved you.you might also want to consider this verse Revelations 22:15. We show love to our Savior though obedience, not disobedience.
That is incorrect, God's love is unconditional. God gave the life of His Son in order to reconcile you to Himself. There is nothing you could have done to add to that reconciliation. In fact, you did not exist when that reconciliation was performed.
2 Corinthians 5:18
Now all these things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation.We have multiple sets of commandments in the scripture. Commandments given to Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and commandments given by Jesus to His disciples.
Lucky for us we don't have to obey all those commandments.
1 John 3:23-24
This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. The one who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.
We now have the law of liberty. Jesus fulfilled the law and introduced a new covenant. With that new covenant Jesus gave His new commandments. The verse (Matthew 5:17-20) was before the new covenant, once the law was fulfilled. The law was no longer valid. I am not trying to secure a place in heaven, Jesus has already secured the places in heaven. For all those who believe in Him.
Colossians 1:13
For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son.
That's what the scripture states. He rescued us without your involvement.
Lawlessness is ultimately a failure to love others. The law convicts of your sin, your opposition to love. God is love and all sin is opposition to Him.Love is the goal of all the Christian instruction. Your disobedience is not loving others as Christ loved you.
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecclesiastes 12:13
Here is the real "conclusion".. "All that believe on Jesus, have eternal life".
The only reason you will be allowed to go to heaven, is because the Blood of Jesus has been applied to you by God, and you become born again.
All your works and obedience and self effort, need not apply for entrance into heaven.
If you try that, you will be denied as this..."depart from me, i never knew you".
God only accepts the BLOOD of JESUS< to allow you to be reconciled to Himself.
Trust that, and God will take you and keep you. "Justification by Faith". "Faith is counted as Righteousness".
John 14:6
All your works and obedience and self effort, need not apply for entrance into heaven. If you try that, you will be denied as this..."depart from me, i never knew you".
That is to be under grace, living by the Spirit. When understood correctly, Paul taught justification apart from legalism. That is to be under the law, living by my own, non-spiritual efforts.
Are you saying King Solomon is incorrect?
Grace is God's gift to give or not. We are 100% saved by God's grace though our faith. Those who have true faith also keep God's commandments.
Mathew 7:23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
You really hit the nail on the head!We do not keep OT commandments to receive NT reconciliaiton.
You are teaching a hybrid gospel of .. The Cross + Commandment keeping.
That is "another gospel", and that is : Galatians 1:8.
That hybrid gospel equates to "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works" and truly is "another gospel."
We do not keep OT commandments to receive NT reconciliaiton.
You are teaching a hybrid gospel of .. The Cross + Commandment keeping.
That is "another gospel", and that is : Galatians 1:8.
Go and find out what Paul calls "My Gospel" and believe that one, only.
Also, to "practice lawlessness"..
Who is that?
Do you sin and confess?
Sure you do, so, everytime you sin, and do it again, you practiced lawlessness, by that sin.
So, let me help you..
To practice lawlessness, is to be BE that...
And that is a person that Christ does not KNOW, verses a sin confessing person, who Christ does know.
See, the lawless, sin, and you sin , so what is the difference?
The difference, is, God does not KNOW the Lawless, as this term means they do not know the "truth".
To know the TRUTH, is to believe in the One who Himself IS the Truth.
This would be all the born again.
God knows all the Born again., which is what separates them from the "lawless".
We do not keep OT commandments to receive NT reconciliaiton.
This does not make a lot of sense.
This is what scriptures tells us about teaching:First of all, dont assume you need to tell me how to teach?
Who are you, but a person who does not teach the Grace of God, and does not understand it, who is hanging out on my Thread doing it.
Also, I dont teach "opinion", i teach Pauline Theology, and i reject your false immuendo, that says that i teach by opinion.
Also, what i wrote, does not "make sense" to you, you mean.
Yes i understand.
So, Here is the reality.
God replaced the OT, with the NT, regarding "covenant".
The only way you will go to heaven is to be born again.
Your self righteousn works and commandments need not apply for that position.
This is what scriptures tells us about teaching:
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them
When you try to remove God's laws,?
Please quote me where I said Paul does not speak according to the light. You should consider what you are teaching here. Twisting and placing words in someone's mouth is not very truthful.You'll never be able to Prove that Paul does not speak according to "light".
And as i only teach Pauline Theology, you are already discovered as an opinion pretending to be the authority.
Also, i would never "remove God's laws", but, what Paul teaches, as what the Blood of Christ accomplished, is that it eternally restores relationship between God and the BORN AGAIN, based on "the GIFT of Salvation".
You dont understand this Gift, which is why you can't receive my teaching, or Paul's.
Now, you want to be thought of on this forum as a someone who is a deep student of the bible.
That is very important to you.
So, in that case, use the depths of your theological learning and explain this statement.
Explain it.....
"The blood of Jesus that saves, always keeps you saved, no matter what".
Please quote me where I said Paul does not speak according to the light. You should consider what you are teaching here. Twisting and placing words in someone's mouth is not very truthful.
keeping the commandments of God is what matters.
I am sorry you did not like the scriptures I posted. These are all direct quotes from the bible. I did not write them. I'm not sure why so many are opposed to God's commandments that He personally wrote for us and we are told are righteous, pure, a light, made from love, holy and eternal. I can provide each scripture stating this is you want when I have more time. Yes, there is more to the bible than keeping God's commandments, but it's a large part of it according to God and Jesus and all the scripture references throughout the bible. Ignoring them, does not make them go away.You are on my Thread tossing out innuendo without quoting me.
So, that makes you dishonest.
Also, If you deny Grace and promote legalism, while falsely accusing someone of being a false teacher, because they dont promote your legalism, then you are not coming against the person, but instead you are contradicting the Theology of Paul that im teaching.
So, that is "where" you did it.
And you'll do it again, as all Galatians 1:8 Legalists rant endlessly about commandments, and lawkeeping and works.
AND YOU'LL do it again, because your type of faith in proven by your theology which only talks about commandment keeping, or similar.
Now, want to post 10 or 20 more Posts that talk about your faith in commandment keeping?
Go right ahead.
We see you.
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God once told Moses... "you have found Grace in my sight, so i will do what you asked".
And this presents THE interesting distinction, between the OT and the NT.
And i'll show you more as we take a closer look at the distinction.
And its a WONDERFUL distinction.
its a THANK YOU JESUS, distinction.
ITs a Hallelujah distinction.
Take a look....
God told Moses, "YOU found Grace, in my sight".
So, that is the OT, "under the law", where a person is found trying to do something so that God would see it, and bless, based on the Self Effort.
In Deuteronomy for example, God says...>"if you DO all this....if you KEEP all this, then i will do all THIS for you".
So, that is the essence of "being under the law", which is the heart of the old covenant.
Now compare this to the "time of the Gentiles"., the "new Covenant", as found as the Grace of God.
Notice reader.....We are no longer finding Grace in God's sight by our EFFORT to try to get it.
Why?
Because God is now giving Grace, as the BLood Atonement.
God is now giving righteousness, as the GIFT of righteousness
God is now giving Salvation , as the GIFT of Salvation.
John 3:16
See the stark change from OLD to NEW?
In the Old Testament, you worked to try to possess God's favor.
In the New Testament, in the "time of the Gentiles', you are no longer under the law, but "under GRACE", you are blessed by God, as a "GIFT".
Reader......IN the OT, you were favored or not, based on your effort to attain it by works.
In the NT< you are gifted, favored, and blessed FREELY...all based only on what Christ did for you on the Cross, = all achieved for you by the shedding of God's blood, His body's death, and His literal Resurrection.
See that CHANGE?
That is the GOSPEL. That is the "Grace of God". That is "unmerited favor". That is God being good to you, based only = on what CHRIST DID FOR YOU.
Aren't you glad God came down here and took care of all your sin for you with His own shed blood, and became your Eternal FATHER and your FRIEND, vs you living in old testament times when you had to try to earn this same favor by Works.....
Do you see the DISTINCTION between the "working to receive the blessing" of the Old Covenant, vs, the "GIFT" of blessing and favor that come not because you earned them, but because God loves you so much that He came down here to provide His own Blood for you, so that you could receive all His blessings found as "His riches in Glory" for FREE, forever.
Now, I / Paul both teach that the 2nd Adam, (Jesus) came, to restore the born again into the 1st Adam Position, as : God's Righteous.
Notice, when Adam and Eve were in the Garden, God GAVE them everything.
They didnt have to earn it. It was all FREE to them. God supplied it all.
All they had was God's blessing to them, and they havd everything.
Yet, They threw it all away for the taste of rebellion.
Then, later, Law came by Moses, and it put us under the slavery of SIN.
"the Law is the POWER OF SIN".
"Christ came to REDEEM YOU FROM the CURSE OF THE LAW".
See that?
That is OT vs NT.
Law, vs Grace.
So, NOW, under the NEW TESTAMENT , the NEW COVENANT, ....when God's blood is applied to you, all your sin is resolved and God's righteousness again becomes who you are, "in Christ", and you now possess Eternal Life and will get a New Body.
So, all that is FREE.. Its a GIFT. "The GIFT of Salvation". "The GIFT of Righteousness".
You dont earn a Gift. You RECEIVE IT.
All this comes to you, because of what God did for you on the Cross, for FREE.
See that Love?
See that Gift?
God is Love.
God restores you to 1st Adam position, as "the righteousness of God", "in Christ", and made so, by the 2nd Adam, who is Christ The Lord.
Reader......Here is one more look at that OT LAW vs God's NT Grace.
When the LAW was given by Moses, 3000 people DIED that very same day.
When Grace was Given on the day of Pentecost.... 3000 believed it and were added to the church.
See that LIFE?
The Law came and 3000 died., as the Law """"(the letter kills.)"""
Grace came and 3000 were made ALIVE by the Spirit of God.
Law brings death.
Grace brings forgiveness and joy, freedom and Eternal life.
The Law, DEMANDS.
GRACE, provides.
See it?
See the OT vs the NT?
See the Law vs Grace?
See the Old Covenant vs the NEW Covenant?
They are not the same.
They oppose each other.
Reader, When you are under the law, and not born again, you are a SINNER.
So says the Law.
But Now God's GRACE Says....When you trusted Christ and God SAVED you with the Blood of Jesus, you became a :
Saint
Heir of God
Joint Heir with Christ
Temple of the Holy Spriit
ONE with God and Christ
Friend of God
Born again.
Possessing Eternal Life
Redeemed
Blood Bought
Forgiven
You are on my Thread tossing out innuendo without quoting me.
So, that makes you dishonest.
Also, If you deny Grace and promote legalism, while falsely accusing someone of being a false teacher, because they dont promote your legalism, then you are not coming against the person, but instead you are contradicting the Theology of Paul that im teaching.
So, that is "where" you did it.
And you'll do it again, as all Galatians 1:8 Legalists rant endlessly about commandments, and lawkeeping and works.
AND YOU'LL do it again, because your type of faith in proven by your theology which only talks about commandment keeping, or similar.
Now, want to post 10 or 20 more Posts that talk about your faith in commandment keeping?
Go right ahead.
We see you.
I am sorry you did not like the scriptures I posted.
PS- legalist is not a term in the bible. This is a teaching of man, usually to try to discredit God's laws that are written in our hearts and we fulfill them with love when we obey, in the New Covenant Jeremiah 31:33
more grace... less name-calling please.
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