Kylie's Pluto Challenge

[Speedwell]

Still, I wonder if there are not YECs somewhere cogitating on how to modify their comet argument in case the Oort cloud is confirmed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Still, I wonder if there are not YECs somewhere cogitating on how to modify their comet argument in case the Oort cloud is confirmed.

They will probably use the same strategy that they used for the Kuiper Belt. Deny that the early finds are Kuiper belt objects and when the evidence is over whelming simply ignore the problem and pretend that the existence of the Oort cloud does not matter.

 

[Radrook]

Still, I wonder if there are not YECs somewhere cogitating on how to modify their comet argument in case the Oort cloud is confirmed.

What is their comet argument?

 

[Speedwell]

What is their comet argument?

That because comets which pass close to the Sun (like Halley's, for instance) gradually evaporate, they would all be gone by now if the Solar System wasn't young. Consequently, they must deny the existence of a source of new peri-solar comets.

 

[Radrook]

That because comets which pass close to the Sun (like Halley's, for instance) gradually evaporate, they would all be gone by now if the Solar System wasn't young. Consequently, they must deny the existence of a source of new peri-solar comets.

Thanks for the explanation.

 

[Speedwell]

That comet could have been jostled from the Oort cloud comparatively recently.

So it could, and I think that is probably the line that will be taken. The argument will not be as strong, however.

 

[Radrook]

So it could, and I think that is probably the line that will be taken. The argument will not be as strong, however.

Why is the argument weak?

 

[Radrook]

So it could, and I think that is probably the line that will be taken. The argument will not be as strong, however.

So how would you respond to that Oort cloud depletion argument?

 

[Speedwell]

Why is the argument weak?

Because if there is no Oort cloud or other source of new comets, the argument is conclusive. Comets created with the Solar System billions of years ago should all be gone. If there is one, the Solar System could still be ancient, even if the presently observed comets were jostled out of the Oort cloud since 4004 BC.

 

[AV1611VET]

St Jude was founded after NASA was founded and well after the Apollo missions. So... fail on your part.

Speaking of fail, it took three men dying on the launch pad in a fire before the brainiacs at NASA built the hatches to open inward, instead of outward.

Kinda ironic that they later gave us the Super Soaker,™ isn't it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Speaking of fail, it took three men dying on the launch pad in a fire before the brainiacs at NASA built the hatches to open inward, instead of outward.

Kinda ironic that they later gave us the Super Soaker,™ isn't it?

No, that's not a fail of the type that I was talking about. Your comment that I originally responded to was a fail. You gloating over the deaths of three men is just pathetic.

 

[AV1611VET]

You gloating over the deaths of three men is just pathetic.

You must really think Billy Joel is pathetic then, don't you?

He made a lotta money off of the past.

My favorite part is where he says, "children of thalidomide" (see @ 1:51).

Pathetic, isn't he?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You must really think Billy Joel is pathetic then, don't you?

He made a lotta money off of the past.

My favorite part is where he says, "children of thalidomide" (see @ 1:51).

Pathetic, isn't he?

Not the same. He's not the one who needlessly brings up deaths every time someone talks about science like he has some point to make. Also, Billy Joel doesn't act like he's gloating about the deaths.

 

[AV1611VET]

Not the same.

You're right.

He made money off of it.

He's not the one who needlessly brings up deaths every time someone talks about science like he has some point to make.

He doesn't have to.

The song went gold.

Probably due to all them morbid sadists out there, eh?

Also, Billy Joel doesn't act like he's gloating about the deaths.

The only reason I don't report you for that is because I'm good at considering the source.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

He doesn't have to.

And neither do you. And yet you continually bring up deaths you insipidly attribute to science. And you do it with the haughtiness of one who gloats over another persons misery.

 

[AV1611VET]

And neither do you. And yet you continually bringup deaths you insipidly attribute to science. And you do it with the haughtiness of one who gloats over another persons misery.

And what do you "gloat" over?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And what do you "gloat" over?

I don't take amusement from people's deaths.

 

[AV1611VET]

I don't take amusement from people's deaths.

So what do you "gloat" over?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

So what do you "gloat" over?

Why are you asking me this question? Are you admitting that you gloat over innocent people's suffering?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why are you asking me this question? Are you admitting that you gloat over innocent people's suffering?

Shoe's on the other foot now, isn't it?

It's not so easy to apply a [false] accusation to yourself, is it?