Kylie's Pluto Challenge

[Quid est Veritas?]

Oh, couldn't you read? Here let me help you:

Apollo sets the pace St. Jude Medical’s Cardiac Rhythm Management Division used Apollo technology to develop a programmable pacemaker system. A physician can communicate with a patient’s pacemaker by means of wireless telemetry signals transmitted through the communicating head held over the patient’s chest. Where earlier pacemakers delivered a fixed type of stimulus once implanted, this system enables “fine tuning” of the device to best suit the patient’s changing needs. Spinoff 1980

There, I highlighted it for you.

I assume you are also aware of significant improvements in computing etc. Things used by doctors (at least where I'm at here in the US) use today!

If you want to call NASA liars then by all means feel free to.

The writers of this article used very specious arguments. As my article highlighting the history of pacemakers illustrate, this has little to do with the Apollo programme, although I assume they used similar technology.
St Jude's was already working on this type of technology before they were approached by NASA as a contractor for the Apollo programme, so to say this is an effect or due to the programme is simply false.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The writers of this article used very specious arguments. As my article highlighting the history of pacemakers illustrate, this has little to do with the Apollo programme, although I assume they used similar technology.
St Jude's was already working on this type of technology before they were approached by NASA as a contractor for the Apollo programme, so to say this is an effect or due to the programme is simply false.

You don't seem to understand that technology from the various NASA programs have found use in every day life. The example was given to you. And though St. Jude's was already doing this without the additional funding from NASA it would have taken longer or perhaps never been developed by them at all.

 

[AV1611VET]

You don't seem to understand that technology from the various NASA programs have found use in every day life. The example was given to you. And though St. Jude's was already doing this without the additional funding from NASA it would have taken longer or perhaps never been developed by them at all.

NASA can get lost.

If they would have sent that money to St. Jude, instead of the National Antichrist Scientists Administration, St. Jude would have come up with it first.

 

[Radrook]

Just the kuiper belt. The oort cloud is much further out.



Wow, you really don't do your research at all, do you? We have discovered many kuiper belt objects.

largest Kuiper Belt objects
List of trans-Neptunian objects - Wikipedia
http://web.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/papers/ps/kbochap.pdf
Strangest Kuiper Belt Objects: The Top Five



Does your eye not have a retina at the back? Does it not have a circular pupil? Does it not have that jelly stuff inside? In what ways does your eye lack a resemblance to Trumps?

Weird! I had realized that my hasty initial statements were flawed and had decided to replace them with the accurate details and here they are somehow and anyway! How the heck did THAT happen?

About the Trump comment, it wasn't meant to be taken literally, but if it were, there are integral features of the eyes common to all eyes and superficial ones such as color and shape which are not. My head doesn't resemble Trump's but is still a human head.
Furthermore it was a joke.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

You don't seem to understand that technology from the various NASA programs have found use in every day life. The example was given to you. And though St. Jude's was already doing this without the additional funding from NASA it would have taken longer or perhaps never been developed by them at all.

This is not technology from Apollo being adapted for other uses, but technology for other uses being adapted for Apollo and NASA then claiming credit for 'creating' it. This is silly and disingenuous on their part.
Obviously some improvements were made during the programme, but not in the fanciful manner it is being presented in this thread, as if Apollo somehow made a 'breakthrough'.
This is like NASA claiming to have invented the US flag because they made a rigid one for use on the moon.

 

[Kylie]

Weird! I had realized that my hasty initial statements were flawed and had decided to replace them with the accurate details and here they are somehow and anyway! How the heck did THAT happen?

Not sure, although I did have a similar thing happen a few weeks ago, when I quoted a post that someone had edited, and yet I was still being shown the original one...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

NASA can get lost.

If they would have sent that money to St. Jude, instead of the National Antichrist Scientists Administration, St. Jude would have come up with it first.

St Jude was founded after NASA was founded and well after the Apollo missions. So... fail on your part.

 

[Radrook]

Not sure, although I did have a similar thing happen a few weeks ago, when I quoted a post that someone had edited, and yet I was still being shown the original one...

Well, I least I had a chance to explain. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[David_M]

Have they actually seen the debris that they claim Pluto hasn't cleared? Please note the Pluto's orbit is very eccentric and that claim would need to include a very immense trajectory at a vey extreme angle to the rest of the planetary orbits. One moment Pluto is within the Oort cloud and Keiper Belt and the next it is out. So how is it expected to clear its orbit since those regions are constantly in motion?

Yes we have seen KBOs, well over a thousand of them now. A few are more than half the diameter of Pluto and some have their own satellites, 2 are classified as Dwarf Planets from memory.

The fact that they are there means that Pluto hasn't cleared its orbit, no matter how eccentric it is.

Furthermore, the Keiper Belt itself is a theoretical construct and has never actually been observed or verified. It is assumed to surround the Solar System because that would explain where comets are coming from without any predictable direction being probable to calculate.

I think you are confusing the Oort Cloud with the Kuiper Belt. The Kuiper Belt is definitely there, more and more objects are being located all the time. It's the Oort Cloud objects that haven't been observed yet, or we may have found a couple but that depends on where you come down as to which trans-neptunian objects fall within the Oort cloud.

 

[Radrook]

Yes we have seen KBOs, well over a thousand of them now. A few are more than half the diameter of Pluto and some have their own satellites, 2 are classified as Dwarf Planets from memory.

The fact that they are there means that Pluto hasn't cleared its orbit, no matter how eccentric it is.



I think you are confusing the Oort Cloud with the Kuiper Belt. The Kuiper Belt is definitely there, more and more objects are being located all the time. It's the Oort Cloud objects that haven't been observed yet, or we may have found a couple but that depends on where you come down as to which trans-neptunian objects fall within the Oort cloud.

I saw the Kuiper Belt mistake immediately and decided not to post it as written but it appeared as posted anyway. But yes, it is the Oort Cloud I was referring to as not being detected directly yet.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

NASA can get lost.

If they would have sent that money to St. Jude, instead of the National Antichrist Scientists Administration, St. Jude would have come up with it first.

So are the scientists at NASA ("National Antichrist Scientists Administration") also Gifts from God?

Wow. I'd say I kinda nailed it when I suggested your position toward scientists was pretty harsh.

So, why, exactly, do you hate scientist so much?

 

[aachen_hexagon]

The writers of this article used very specious arguments. As my article highlighting the history of pacemakers illustrate, this has little to do with the Apollo programme

I BELIEVE the point was the the TELEMETRY aspect was more related to Apollo. Not necessarily the pacemaker itself.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

May I ask what "Apollo technology" is? other than a vague term?

Technology developed for or by the Apollo space program. You might have missed it. It represented a large push by American science and engineering groups to put someone on the moon.

These scientists and engineers were probably too scary for you to look at or read about since you think they were working for Satan.

(I assume you use lead lined gloves when you type on your satanic computer, right? You don't want to catch the "evil" while using a piece of technology. Did you know that one of the fathers of the computer program, Alan Turing was GAY? Yup. You could probably be catching teh gay just by posting on your "counting threads". )

 

[AV1611VET]

Did you know that one of the fathers of the computer program, Alan Turing was GAY?

Yes.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

Yes.

Be careful when you use the computer! Don't catch teh gay!

 

[AV1611VET]

Be careful when you use the computer! Don't catch teh gay!

Your sarcasm stems from ignorance.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your sarcasm stems from ignorance.

Hmm, it seems that you are implying something about yourself here.

 

[aachen_hexagon]

Your sarcasm stems from ignorance.

Interesting...you see, I see your hypocrisy similary stems from ignorance.

I see you call scientists "antichrists" and unwitting workers for Satan, yet here you are using science to blast the scientists!

Further your "religion" (such as it is) seems to make you think it is OK to excoriate these people so long as you add the caveat that you think they are a Gift from God.

I know it makes you feel less "guilty" for calling these people whose work you don't understand satanic or antichrists when you mouth some magical phrase like saying you believe they are a"gift from God", and I hope that your God is as simple and easily fooled as that.

 

[USincognito]

One moment Pluto is within the Oort cloud and Keiper Belt and the next it is out.

This simply isn't factual.

Furthermore, the Keiper Belt itself is a theoretical construct and has never actually been observed or verified.

Kuiper belt and Oort cloud objects have been observed.

 

[Radrook]

This simply isn't factual.



Kuiper belt and Oort cloud objects have been observed.

I keep explaining that I had not posted these erroneous comments but to no avail. Who posted them for me I don't know. In any case, the Oort cloud itself as an existing cloud of objects in the theoretically estimated numbers still remains unconfirmed and is an assumption based on the observation of comets arriving in our vicinity from all unpredictable directions.