Kavanaugh's Drinking Memory

[wing2000]

He didn't say he always had clear memories from the nights he was drunk. He said he had no blackouts.

Is that what you deduce from Mitchell's line of questioning?

 

[Go Braves]

Dr. Ford's own lifelong friend ALSO said she has no memory of the party, nor having ever met Kavenaugh. And Judge's comments are under risk of perjury, as with everyone else who wrote a written statement claiming not to know of this party.

It's hardly surprising that the friend wouldn't recall details from a party 36 years back since there wasn't anything memorable that happened to her. Entirely different for Dr. Blasey Ford. That same friend has insisted, adamantly, that she believes her.

He was corroborated along the entire process. Many witnesses to Kavanaugh's character and activities, regularly working out, playing sports, et cetera. She, on the other hand, has NO corroborating evidence or anything regarding her claims.

What on earth does him regularly working out, playing sports, have to do with whether he did what the three women who've accused him said he did? She has many witnesses to her character too. She was a cheerleader & a swimmer. Friends remember that she'd been a social butterfly then "socially fell off the face of the planet" which lines up with how the victim of a sexual assault would act.

Again, the accusers are the ones who have pushed for the allegations. If Kavanaugh's innocent as he claims, he should not only welcome but DEMAND that they investigate. It's bullcrap that they can't or don't investigate this.

 

[Saucy]

It's hardly surprising that the friend wouldn't recall details from a party 36 years back since there wasn't anything memorable that happened to her. Entirely different for Dr. Blasey Ford. That same friend has insisted, adamantly, that she believes her.



What on earth does him regularly working out, playing sports, have to do with whether he did what the three women who've accused him said he did? She has many witnesses to her character too. She was a cheerleader & a swimmer. Friends remember that she'd been a social butterfly then "socially fell off the face of the planet" which lines up with how the victim of a sexual assault would act.

Again, the accusers are the ones who have pushed for the allegations. If Kavanaugh's innocent as he claims, he should not only welcome but DEMAND that they investigate. It's bullcrap that they can't or don't investigate this.

They did investigate it. The FBI did release a statement after Feinstein sent the FBI the letter. Their letter stated that the matter is closed. All the FBI would do is take statements and report what each party stated. That's it. They did investigate the claims. Demanding more investigation is just a smokescreen to delay the confirmation, and I believe you're smart enough to realize this. You only side with Dr. Ford because you don't like Kavanaugh and don't want him appointed. NONE of the accusations have any merit or evidence or corroboration. The burden of proof was on her to prove her case, and she failed to do it.

This is over. Even several Democrats have already stated they are voting yes for Kavanaugh. That's how much of a case he has. He won. He will be confirmed.

 

[Saucy]

Is that what you deduce from Mitchell's line of questioning?

I do. I remember him specifically stating he was never too drunk that he never recalled anything. If you choose to not believe him, you have that right, but how much is 'too much' alcohol is relative to the individual. It's not for anyone but Judge Kavanaugh to say whether or not he was ever inebriated beyond the point of blacking out.

 

[Go Braves]

They did investigate it. The FBI did release a statement after Feinstein sent the FBI the letter. Their letter stated that the matter is closed. All the FBI would do is take statements and report what each party stated. That's it. They did investigate the claims. Demanding more investigation is just a smokescreen to delay the confirmation, and I believe you're smart enough to realize this. You only side with Dr. Ford because you don't like Kavanaugh and don't want him appointed. NONE of the accusations have any merit or evidence or corroboration. The burden of proof was on her to prove her case, and she failed to do it.

This is over. Even several Democrats have already stated they are voting yes for Kavanaugh. That's how much of a case he has. He won. He will be confirmed.

No Saucy, the FBI has not investigated the allegations, plural, about Kavanaugh. Saucy I side with integrity, not with Kavanaugh or his accusers. Now you can keep on pulling as many assumptions out of your rear end as you please about me, but it just makes me laugh.

 

[wing2000]

They did investigate it. The FBI did release a statement after Feinstein sent the FBI the letter. Their letter stated that the matter is closed. All the FBI would do is take statements and report what each party stated. That's it. They did investigate the claims.

Feinstein sends Ford's letter to the FBI after several days of rumors about its existence leaking out from Democratic senators. The bureau puts the letter in Kavanaugh's background check file but does not launch a criminal investigation, in part because the statute of limitations on the alleged sexual assault expired years earlier.
Brett Kavanaugh: A timeline of allegations against the Supreme Court nominee

The FBI background investigation did not include Ford's claims. President Trump refused to order the FBI to reopen the background investigation.

 

[rambot]

I do. I remember him specifically stating he was never too drunk that he never recalled anything. If you choose to not believe him, you have that right, but how much is 'too much' alcohol is relative to the individual. It's not for anyone but Judge Kavanaugh to say whether or not he was ever inebriated beyond the point of blacking out.

When the transcript was in the other thread, I don't recall reading a definitive answer to the negative; simply an "I don't know".

 

[wing2000]

I do. I remember him specifically stating he was never too drunk that he never recalled anything. If you choose to not believe him, you have that right, but how much is 'too much' alcohol is relative to the individual. It's not for anyone but Judge Kavanaugh to say whether or not he was ever inebriated beyond the point of blacking out.

That isn't what he stated in testimony today. The transcript is available for you to prove otherwise. See the 1st post.

 

[Saucy]

No Saucy, the FBI has not investigated the allegations, plural, about Kavanaugh. Saucy I side with integrity, not with Kavanaugh or his accusers. Now you can keep on pulling as many assumptions out of your rear end as you please about me, but it just makes me laugh.

I'm glad to make you laugh, but you're certainly not siding with integrity in this case. I don't know what you have against Kavanaugh, but from any perspective, there's zero evidence against Kavanaugh. Zero. Zilch. We're innocent until proven guilty in this country. That's the standard we need to operate by.

 

[rambot]

I'm glad to make you laugh, but you're certainly not siding with integrity in this case. I don't know what you have against Kavanaugh, but from any perspective, there's zero evidence against Kavanaugh. Zero. Zilch. We're innocent until proven guilty in this country. That's the standard we need to operate by.

So to clarify: You believe that Ford is LYING or simply that it could have happenned/ did happen but she doesn't have evidence for it.

 

[Saucy]

That isn't what he stated in testimony today. The transcript is available for you to prove otherwise. See the 1st post.

You quoted it yourself in your second post.

Was there ever a time when you drank so much that you couldn’t remember what happened, or part of what happened the night before?

KAVANAUGH: No, I — no. I remember what happened, and I think you’ve probably had beers, Senator, and — and so I…

 

[rambot]

You quoted it yourself in your second post.

Was there ever a time when you drank so much that you couldn’t remember what happened, or part of what happened the night before?

KAVANAUGH: No, I — no. I remember what happened, and I think you’ve probably had beers, Senator, and — and so I…

You'll note that he used the wrong phrasing in answering that question. He was asked if he'd EVER been black out drunk, but Kavanaugh is implying (at BEST) but seems to be referring to the "one instance" in question.

 

[wing2000]

You quoted it yourself in your second post.

Was there ever a time when you drank so much that you couldn’t remember what happened, or part of what happened the night before?

KAVANAUGH: No, I — no. I remember what happened, and I think you’ve probably had beers, Senator, and — and so I…

That's right. He confirmed there was never a time when he could not remember what happened.

 

[Saucy]

So to clarify: You believe that Ford is LYING or simply that it could have happenned/ did happen but she doesn't have evidence for it.

Honestly, I felt she was believable and something happened to her. But she was drunk and short of memory. It could very well be a case of mistaken identity, as two men have come forward claiming to be the ones who did this. As I stated, no one questioned her about her drinking activities, how often she got drunk, etc. I don't know if she was lying.

 

[Go Braves]

I'm glad to make you laugh, but you're certainly not siding with integrity in this case. I don't know what you have against Kavanaugh, but from any perspective, there's zero evidence against Kavanaugh. Zero. Zilch. We're innocent until proven guilty in this country. That's the standard we need to operate by.

I'm glad you're glad you continue to make me chuckle. Yes, I am standing with integrity, Saucy. Sorry you cannot see that from your limited perspective.

Do you think the women who've made the allegations against Kavanaugh are innocent until proven guilty of lying? Do you think that standard only applies on one side? In courts of law one is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty. Saucy, Kavanugh is essentially applying for a job. One that once he gets he can't just be fired for like you can with other jobs. It's head up the rear end stupid, totally lacking in responsibility, to not investigate the allegations now.

 

[Saucy]

You'll note that he used the wrong phrasing in answering that question. He was asked if he'd EVER been black out drunk, but Kavanaugh is implying (at BEST) but seems to be referring to the "one instance" in question.

No, he also said no about that too.

MITCHELL: OK. Have you ever passed out from drinking?

KAVANAUGH: I — passed out would be — no, but I’ve gone to sleep, but — but I’ve never blacked out. That’s the — that’s the — the allegation, and that — that — that’s wrong.

 

[USincognito]

....later:

KLOBUCHAR: OK. Drinking is one thing, but the concern is about truthfulness, and in your written testimony, you said sometimes you had too many drinks. Was there ever a time when you drank so much that you couldn’t remember what happened, or part of what happened the night before?

KAVANAUGH: No, I — no. I remember what happened, and I think you’ve probably had beers, Senator, and — and so I…

KLOBUCHAR: So you’re saying there’s never been a case where you drank so much that you didn’t remember what happened the night before, or part of what happened.

KAVANAUGH: It’s — you’re asking about, you know, blackout. I don’t know. Have you?

KLOBUCHAR: Could you answer the question, Judge? I just — so you — that’s not happened. Is that your answer?

KAVANAUGH: Yeah, and I’m curious if you have.

KLOBUCHAR: I have no drinking problem, Judge.

KAVANAUGH: Yeah, nor do I.

KLOBUCHAR: OK, thank you.

He pulled this Nathan Thurm shtick several times during his testimony didn't he.

 

[Saucy]

I'm glad you're glad you continue to make me chuckle. Yes, I am standing with integrity, Saucy. Sorry you cannot see that from your limited perspective.

Do you think the women who've made the allegations against Kavanaugh are innocent until proven guilty of lying? Do you think that standard only applies on one side? In courts of law one is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty. Saucy, Kavanugh is essentially applying for a job. One that once he gets he can't just be fired for like you can with other jobs. It's head up the rear end stupid, totally lacking in responsibility, to not investigate the allegations now.

You have just as much limited perspective as I do, yet you seem to think you're above us all with your infinite wisdom.

And the rest of what you said is absurd and ridiculous. The accusations are against him. The burden of proof is on her to prove her case, and she didn't. You have zero evidence to assume his guilt in this case. None.

From every other standard, he's an amazing judge, with a respectable history, and perhaps the most qualified judge to have ever been nominated. You have no reason to believe these allegations and not support the man, other than whatever personal animus you're feeling towards Trump and his nomination.

 

[jazzflower92]

I'm glad you're glad you continue to make me chuckle. Yes, I am standing with integrity, Saucy. Sorry you cannot see that from your limited perspective.

Do you think the women who've made the allegations against Kavanaugh are innocent until proven guilty of lying? Do you think that standard only applies on one side? In courts of law one is presumed to be innocent until proven guilty. Saucy, Kavanugh is essentially applying for a job. One that once he gets he can't just be fired for like you can with other jobs. It's head up the rear end stupid, totally lacking in responsibility, to not investigate the allegations now.

Except for the third one, the other two might have meat. However, as many have said, before this should have gotten focused on in July.

 

[NothingIsImpossible]

In the end the focus on drinking is pointless since Fords own friends said she was wrong essentially and don't remember him at the party. He could be a rage filled drunk for all I care, evidence shows hes innocent and thats that. Given most people in the country drink beer, its weird to somehow say that has anything to do with sexual assault. Its like Dems are grasping at straws just to make sure another republican is elected into a high position.