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Judge Merchan orders Trump sentencing

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No, as he was not Inaugurated yet. He is the president elect, not president yet.
Just like how he has not been sentenced yet. He has been convicted of felonies, but he is not a felon yet.
 
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Nothing more than this “Nicole Cord-Cruz’s” opinion?
Where did she get her information?

Here’s the relevant rules for courts in the State of New York, point out to me where someone convicted of a felon isn’t a “felon” until after sentenced, thanks.

Here, I’ll even help you out

Sentences aren’t passed onto people who aren’t convicted, and while it’s true that the judgement of the court regarding a defendant isn’t completed until sentencing, the person is still convicted, (which is why they’re liable to being sentenced ).
The distinction matters because the system treats felons differently - like when it comes to gun ownership as an example.

Just like how he cannot yet enforce any of the decisions he will later make as the POTUS - the system cannot treat him like a felon until he is sentenced.
 
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The distinction matters because the system treats felons differently - like when it comes to gun ownership as an example.

Just like how he cannot yet enforce any of the decisions he will later make as the POTUS - the system cannot treat him like a felon until he is sentenced.
Odd hill to plant a flag on.
 
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Just like how he has not been sentenced yet. He has been convicted of felonies, but he is not a felon yet.
No, he is a felon. I have found nothing credible that says they have to be sentenced first. Just found guilty.
 
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The distinction matters because the system treats felons differently - like when it comes to gun ownership as an example.

Just like how he cannot yet enforce any of the decisions he will later make as the POTUS - the system cannot treat him like a felon until he is sentenced.
again, you are straining gnats.
 
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That’s is what I have been saying.
Yet he is a convicted felon now. IF the convictions are reversed later by appeal, which seems real unlikely, then he still will be the president who went into office as a convicted felon and who was tried and found guilty by a jury.
 
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Yet he is a convicted felon now. IF the convictions are reversed later by appeal, which seems real unlikely, then he still will be the president who went into office as a convicted felon and who was tried and found guilty by a jury.
and came out with his convictions overturned. Gotta have the whole truth - not just half.
 
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No, he is a felon. I have found nothing credible that says they have to be sentenced first. Just found guilty.
Then why don't they arrest Trump now for owning firearms?
 
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again, you are straining gnats.
Not at all. You just don't care about the distinction.

And congratulations on your anniversary - just noticed your little tag thing.
 
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Why don't accept the fact that a person needs to be sentenced in order to be considered a felon in the US?
Because I'm not looking for excuses to rationalize voting for the guy convicted of 34 felonies.
 
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How is that?
It is kind of hard to claim lawfare when one has a long history of fraud, including having two entities shutdown for fraud, along with one's flagship org found guilty of 17 counts of the very book cooking type fraudulent crimes like this hush money case. Everyday in America, let lone the whole wide world, conspiring parties of illegality often turn on each other. That's all that happened to Trump, not lawfare.
 
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It is kind of hard to claim lawfare when one has a long history of fraud, including having two entities shutdown for fraud, along with one's flagship org found guilty of 17 counts of the very book cooking type fraudulent crimes like this hush money case. Everyday in America, let lone the whole wide world, conspiring parties of illegality often turn on each other. That's all that happened to Trump, not lawfare.
How long has all this fraud been going on?
 
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I need you to do me a favor though.

Trump speaks with Justice Alito amid push to halt criminal sentencing

Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito spoke to President-elect Donald Trump by phone Tuesday to recommend one of his former law clerks for a job in the new administration, ABC News has learned.

Alito said that he and Trump did not discuss "the emergency application he filed today, and indeed, I was not even aware at the time of our conversation that such an application would be filed," Alito said. "We also did not discuss any other matter that is pending or might in the future come before the Supreme Court or any past Supreme Court decisions involving the President-elect."

It is not unusual for a sitting justice to offer a job recommendation for a former clerk, but it is rare, court analysts said, for a justice to have such a conversation directly with a sitting president or president-elect, especially one with an active stake in business pending before the court.
 
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