When reading this in it's context it seems to says something completely different to me...
We're assuming that "just as" means that the angels committed the same sins as Sodom and Gomorrah but when I read it, "just as" seems to flow from verse 5.
In vs. 5 we learn that Jesus saved the faithful and destroyed the unbelievers in the land of Egypt.
In vs. 6 we learned that Jesus kept the bad angels in external chains under gloomy darkness until the judgement day.
In vs. 7 we learned that Sodom and Gomorrah served as an example of punishment in eternal fires.
It seems "just as" seems to be comparable to the ungodly men that Jude speaks of in Verse 4.
Vs 8 says
Defile the flesh-Sodom and Gomorrah
Reject authority-angels/Egypt
Speak evil of dignitaries-angels/Egypt
Couldn't decipher which was which
I think Jude was comparing the "certain men have crept in unnoticed/dreamers" to these three events/wicked behaviors. I am not so sure that he was making a case that the angels were committing fornication.
We also have to put in perspective that in response to the lady who had 7 husbands and who will she be married to in the resurrection Jesus said
Know, I understand what some will say that the angels that were punished were bad ones that didn't listen and disobeyed so they could be more than capable of "committing fornication" that is why it is connected to Sodom and Gomorrah. But that's not what Jude said. The angels punishment was "not keeping their proper domain but left their own abode". What exactly do that mean? I have NO IDEA but 2 Peter 2:4-6 reilliterate the sins of the angels and Sodom and Gomorrah but do not tie them together. It doesn't seem that fornication was the reason that the angels were thrown out of Heaven.
Now, I also understand that I am entirely human and that God's word is correct no matter what I think it may "seem". I'm just reading the Scriptures and trying to make it understandable with all the other Scriptures that I see. But in all, May God's word prevail.
Please read vs. 1-4, it sets these next verses up.
5 Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
6 And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day-
7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. - Jude 1:5-7
5 Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
6 And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day-
7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. - Jude 1:5-7
We're assuming that "just as" means that the angels committed the same sins as Sodom and Gomorrah but when I read it, "just as" seems to flow from verse 5.
In vs. 5 we learn that Jesus saved the faithful and destroyed the unbelievers in the land of Egypt.
In vs. 6 we learned that Jesus kept the bad angels in external chains under gloomy darkness until the judgement day.
In vs. 7 we learned that Sodom and Gomorrah served as an example of punishment in eternal fires.
It seems "just as" seems to be comparable to the ungodly men that Jude speaks of in Verse 4.
Vs 8 says
Likewise also these dreamers defile the flesh, reject authority and speak evil of dignitaries
I would wager to guess that:Defile the flesh-Sodom and Gomorrah
Reject authority-angels/Egypt
Speak evil of dignitaries-angels/Egypt
Couldn't decipher which was which
I think Jude was comparing the "certain men have crept in unnoticed/dreamers" to these three events/wicked behaviors. I am not so sure that he was making a case that the angels were committing fornication.
We also have to put in perspective that in response to the lady who had 7 husbands and who will she be married to in the resurrection Jesus said
"...Are you not therefore mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God? For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in Heaven..."--Mark 12:24-25
Know, I understand what some will say that the angels that were punished were bad ones that didn't listen and disobeyed so they could be more than capable of "committing fornication" that is why it is connected to Sodom and Gomorrah. But that's not what Jude said. The angels punishment was "not keeping their proper domain but left their own abode". What exactly do that mean? I have NO IDEA but 2 Peter 2:4-6 reilliterate the sins of the angels and Sodom and Gomorrah but do not tie them together. It doesn't seem that fornication was the reason that the angels were thrown out of Heaven.
Now, I also understand that I am entirely human and that God's word is correct no matter what I think it may "seem". I'm just reading the Scriptures and trying to make it understandable with all the other Scriptures that I see. But in all, May God's word prevail.
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