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Poor oppressed white men.
That's increasingly the way they see it.
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That doesn't surprise me...the reasons why you don't see it that way are apparent in your posts.
It's not as if you'd ever say "poor oppressed black men" in a condescending manner, is it?
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Cool story bro.
Well, seeing as how I'm a white man and I know that white men aren't oppressed, I have not reason so "poor oppressed (insert ethnicity and gender here)" in a condescending manner like I do about poor oppressed white men. Nice try though.
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Thanks.
Oh wow...so you now speak for white men everywhere? What a relief. I guess if I post a black man claiming blacks aren't oppressed that makes it so?
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A sentence begging with the word "so" does not automatically make a straw man and certainly not a automatic "I WIN you lose!". Which in this case it's not a straw man, as Ana the Ist point out the implications by him replying
when you said
As you are projecting your experience onto a broad group of people defined by a trait, by acting that you know every single one of them and speaking on behalf of them, which come across as condescending and arrogant.
That can be easily rephrased as "Well, seeing as how I'm a Linux user and I know that Linux users have no problems". Which coming from an software developer, that is complete nonsense.
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Your words...
"I'm a white man and I know that white men aren't oppressed"
Of course, you could always admit that being white doesn't give you access to the experiences of all white men so it's entirely possible there are oppressed white men...
...or you could double down on this " Im white therefore..." argument and see how that works for you .
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Ugh, this tactic is so tiresome and insipid. It's especially ironic given that you didn't think I was a white man - That's increasingly the way they see it. - implying I'm not one of "they". Well, "Ana", I am one of "they" and white men, in America are not oppressed. Any of us who "sees it that way" is just looking to be aggrieved.
Still crying about So's Law I see.
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At some point some folks decided that bleating the name of a logical fallacy was all they needed to do as if somehow posting, "AD-HOMINEM" or "Strawman!" was a smack down for an argument. Pointing out someone has used a logical fallacy doesn't automatically make you right when you don't follow it up with anything.
It means you can identify logical fallacies.
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