James Damore just filed a class action lawsuit against Google

[Rubiks]

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It's amazing that the concept of "two wrongs don't make a right" doesn't resonate with some people.

 

[Maren]

So you can't discriminate based off religion, but you can based off political party?

Protected classes in employment and workplace harassment are race, color, religion, national origin, age, gender, disability, genetic information and veteran status. Some states might add one or two extra protected classes.

 

[Rion]

It's amazing that the concept of "two wrongs don't make a right" doesn't resonate with some people.

Oh, what I posted was only a sample. The appendix to the whole thing is where it gets real eye-opening.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Protected classes in employment and workplace harassment are race, color, religion, national origin, age, gender, disability, genetic information and veteran status. Some states might add one or two extra protected classes.

Protected classes were not intended to offer an advantage relative to job requirement merits.

 

[citizenthom]

Smells like a political stunt. I'm sure it will be wonderfully successful.

What was your first clue? The fact that his lawyer, Harmeet Dhillon, is chairwoman of the Republican Party of San Francisco?

 

[Rion]

 

[Larniavc]

James Damore just filed a class action lawsuit against Google, saying…

James Damore just filed a class action lawsuit against Google, saying it discriminates against white male conservatives

I can't quote from the stuff that's come out so far in regards to the lawsuit filing, 'cause of TOS. But it is... eye opening.

Get your popcorn ready!
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Too many butthurt snowflakes around, these days.

People should not be so fragile and man up.

 

[Rion]

Too many butthurt snowflakes around, these days.

People should not be so fragile and man up.

How... extremely libertarian of you. I never imagined demanding to not be discriminated against based on race, sexuality, or gender for positions and promotions made one a snowflake.

 

[KCfromNC]

How... extremely libertarian of you. I never imagined demanding to not be discriminated against based on race, sexuality, or gender for positions and promotions made one a snowflake.

Why don't they just let the free market sort it out?

 

[Rion]

Why don't they just let the free market sort it out?

If you want people to be able to discriminate against white men, you have to let other people discriminate against women, blacks, hispanics, etc. in turn. If that's what you want to advocate for, I'd be interested in hearing you spell it out for me.

 

[Maren]

Protected classes were not intended to offer an advantage relative to job requirement merits.

And I wasn't claiming that, I was merely asked about religion being protected but not political beliefs. Regardless, the fact remains that the EEOC requires reporting on the number of protected classes working in various jobs -- and not having "enough" minorities working in any particularly job can lead to being sued. In fact, not having minorities in a job (showing a "pattern") can be enough to win a discrimination lawsuit. This has led most companies to ensure that adequate minorities are hired company wide, across all jobs -- and from the sounds of what I've read, it sounds like Google did not actually have quotas but instead encouraged minorities to be hired to protect them from EEOC claims.

Now, if there were actual discrimination against white males, where not enough were being hired, he could sue on that basis -- and it seems interesting to me that he does not claim that white males are under represented in Google's workforce (at least that I've seen), merely that there are some sort of unspecified quotas that are not necessarily followed.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Regardless, the fact remains that the EEOC requires reporting on the number of protected classes working in various jobs -- and not having "enough" minorities working in any particularly job can lead to being sued.

... and now so can having too many protected class members.

Quotas have been ruled unconstitutional already ... so it's hard to see how he loses this lawsuit.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Oh, what I posted was only a sample. The appendix to the whole thing is where it gets real eye-opening.

Yeah, he's got some pretty sure-fire stuff there. I don't think Google is gonna want this out...they'll be talking settlement soon.

 

[Larniavc]

How... extremely libertarian of you. I never imagined demanding to not be discriminated against based on race, sexuality, or gender for positions and promotions made one a snowflake.

Good job that’s not what was happening, isn’t it?

 

[Rion]

Good job that’s not what was happening, isn’t it?

I take it that you've not looked through the lawsuit?

 

[Larniavc]

I take it that you've not looked through the lawsuit?

Which protected class does he belong to?

 

[Rion]

Which protected class does he belong to?

• Race
• Ethnic Background
• Sexual Orientation

What Are The Protected Classes Under Discrimination Laws? | Attorneys.com

I'm assuming that the U.K. actually has classes, and not classifications like the U.S.

 

[USincognito]

I'd really love to see screenshots of him posting racist and misogynistic stuff, but for some reason these guys never capture that.

 

[Maren]

... and now so can having too many protected class members.

Quotas have been ruled unconstitutional already ... so it's hard to see how he loses this lawsuit.

Because he would need to provide evidence Google has actual quotas; and the evidence I've seen indicates there are no actual quotas. If his case succeeds, it will likely be on the basis that Google violated the National Labor Relations Act (the one that allows unions to organize and employees to talk about how much they are paid), not the quota portion of the lawsuit.

Additionally, the rulings on quotas are that the government, specifically universities, could not set quotas (either in employment or admissions). Additionally, the ban was only for rigid numerical quotas; it still allowed the use of goals, just not rigid numerical quotas. I could be wrong, but I believe it is still legal for private companies, with the most recent Supreme Court ruling United Steelworkers of America v. Weber (1979). Regardless, it appears from what I've read that Google does not have rigid quotas but something more in line with goals for diversity hiring.

 

[Larniavc]

• Race
• Ethnic Background
• Sexual Orientation

What Are The Protected Classes Under Discrimination Laws? | Attorneys.com

I'm assuming that the U.K. actually has classes, and not classifications like the U.S.

And it what way was he discriminated based on any of these?

Or is the problem what he said, rather than what he is?