Israel-Hamas Thread II

[Vanellus]

Nah, I will just let it go....really not worth my time any more.....

Yeah why worry about a few cockroaches.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Yeah why worry about a few cockroaches.

exactly.....

 

[essentialsaltes]

Gaza aid delivery hampered by Israeli attacks on police, rising chaos​

The volume of aid delivered to Gaza has collapsed in recent weeks as Israeli airstrikes have targeted police officers who guard the convoys, U.N. officials say, exposing them to looting by criminal gangs and desperate civilians.

Humanitarian officials said police have also stopped serving as security guards for aid convoys, paralyzing deliveries in the enclave, where some hungry families have resorted to eating weeds and animal feed and profiteers are selling stolen food at astronomical rates on the black market.

“With the departure of police escorts it has been virtually impossible for the U.N. or anyone else ... to safely move assistance in Gaza because of criminal gangs,” U.S. Ambassador David Satterfield, appointed by President Biden to coordinate humanitarian aid to Gaza, said Friday.

Asked if police guarding aid convoys were a target, the Israel Defense Forces said: “The IDF is operating to dismantle Hamas military capabilities. Elements involved in military activity may be targeted.”

[T]he drop in the number of trucks is also due, in part, to the now-routine protests by Israelis at [the border crossing at] Kerem Shalom, McGoldrick said. The protesters have vowed to block the crossing until Hamas releases the remaining Israeli hostages, and they have succeeded some days in shutting it down.

On Thursday, demonstrators at Kerem Shalom set up a giant bouncy castle at the entrance where aid trucks are supposed to pass through.

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The World Food Program announced it was forced to stop food deliveries to the north this week, citing the “complete chaos and violence due to the collapse of civil order.” UNRWA has not been able to make any deliveries to northern Gaza since Jan. 23, said Tamara Alrifai, its director of external relations.

Ted Chaiban, deputy director for humanitarian action at UNICEF, warned this week that Gaza is “poised to witness an explosion in preventable child deaths.”

 

[Vanellus]

exactly.....

The "cockroaches" are in fact human beings made in God's image.

 

[Chesterton]

I thought this was pretty good. Who gave "Palestine" to the Jews? The British? The United Nations? Nope. Turns out it was none other than Allah himself.

 

[Valletta]

“Let every terrorist plotting to harm us know that any raising of a hand against Israeli citizens will be met with a blow of death and destruction and the deepening of our eternal grip on the entire Land of Israel,” Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said on Friday.

Blinken condemns Israeli settler expansion as Netanyahu 'triangulates' Hamas war

Israel’s proposal to build thousands of houses for settlers in the West Bank will face “firm opposition” from the United States, according to Secretary of

www.washingtonexaminer.com

I fully approved of the policy of seizing land each time jihadists attacked Israel, and certainly it was a huge mistake to give back land. The message was clear and is clear to the Palestinians, we will live in peace with you but there will be consequences if you choose otherwise. There is no other way to deal with jihadists.

 

[civilwarbuff]

The "cockroaches" are in fact human beings made in God's image.

...who have turned their backs on God and instead turned to evil. Those who support evil are evil......

 

[Tinker Grey]

...who have turned their backs on God and instead turned to evil. Those who support evil are evil......

Israel. You're talking about Israel, right?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Israel. You're talking about Israel, right?

God has punished Israel for 2000 years for turning their backs on their Messiah. Now he has brought them back home. The Bible does not say that their way will be easy; that much of the world will stand against them. Israel has taken a stand against evil, Hamas and their other terrorist associates, so no (except in your own narrow view of the world) Israel is not evil. Many in the world, and even here on a Christian platform, call good evil and evil good.

 

[ralliann]

Gaza aid delivery hampered by Israeli attacks on police, rising chaos​

The volume of aid delivered to Gaza has collapsed in recent weeks as Israeli airstrikes have targeted police officers who guard the convoys, U.N. officials say, exposing them to looting by criminal gangs and desperate civilians.

Humanitarian officials said police have also stopped serving as security guards for aid convoys, paralyzing deliveries in the enclave, where some hungry families have resorted to eating weeds and animal feed and profiteers are selling stolen food at astronomical rates on the black market.

“With the departure of police escorts it has been virtually impossible for the U.N. or anyone else ... to safely move assistance in Gaza because of criminal gangs,” U.S. Ambassador David Satterfield, appointed by President Biden to coordinate humanitarian aid to Gaza, said Friday.

Asked if police guarding aid convoys were a target, the Israel Defense Forces said: “The IDF is operating to dismantle Hamas military capabilities. Elements involved in military activity may be targeted.”

[T]he drop in the number of trucks is also due, in part, to the now-routine protests by Israelis at [the border crossing at] Kerem Shalom, McGoldrick said. The protesters have vowed to block the crossing until Hamas releases the remaining Israeli hostages, and they have succeeded some days in shutting it down.

On Thursday, demonstrators at Kerem Shalom set up a giant bouncy castle at the entrance where aid trucks are supposed to pass through.

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The World Food Program announced it was forced to stop food deliveries to the north this week, citing the “complete chaos and violence due to the collapse of civil order.” UNRWA has not been able to make any deliveries to northern Gaza since Jan. 23, said Tamara Alrifai, its director of external relations.

Ted Chaiban, deputy director for humanitarian action at UNICEF, warned this week that Gaza is “poised to witness an explosion in preventable child deaths.”

It is time to find a legitimate entity to take care of this issue. The UN, is not to be trusted. To bad these people find every way they can to continue the war, and suffering of their own people.

 

[Vanellus]

Many in the world, and even here on a Christian platform, call good evil and evil good.

Including those who call this "good"

 

[ralliann]

Including those who call this "good"

And this would be Israel if they did not get rid of Hamas.

 

[Valletta]

Israel will work to shut down UNRWA, whose operatives were involved in the October 7 massacre, and whose schools educated to terrorism and the destruction of Israel. Israel will work to end UNRWA's activities in the Gaza Strip and replace it with responsible international aid agencies.
The rehabilitation of the Strip will only be possible after the demilitarization is completed and the de-radicalization process begins. The rehabilitation programs will be financed and led by countries that are acceptable to Israel.

Netanyahu presents: The plan for 'the day after Hamas'

Prime Minister Netanyahu brings before the Cabinet his proposal for the "day after" Hamas, which includes the shutting down of UNRWA and a complete demilitarization of Gaza.

www.israelnationalnews.com

This seems like the most practical and reasonable plan I have seen.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Including those who call this "good"

No, I would call that necessary in order to destroy the evil called Hamas in gaza. War is an ugly business; if you don't have the stomach to watch/observe the necessary actions to bring it to a close I suggest you avoid reading/looking at articles that you feel will disturb you.
Hamas and/or the gazans can end this anytime they want.....they just don't want to.....at least not until every Jew in the world is dead......or until gazan/Hamas leadership is threatened and in danger (that usually works too).

 

[Vanellus]

No, I would call that necessary in order to destroy the evil called Hamas in gaza. War is an ugly business; if you don't have the stomach to watch/observe the necessary actions to bring it to a close I suggest you avoid reading/looking at articles that you feel will disturb you.
Hamas and/or the gazans can end this anytime they want.....they just don't want to.....at least not until every Jew in the world is dead......or until gazan/Hamas leadership is threatened and in danger (that usually works too).

What disturbs me is that you put your opinion (that may well be wrong) over the factual truth of these images.

Btw Hamas have confined their attacks mostly, if not entirely, to within the borders of Israel.

 

[civilwarbuff]

What disturbs me is that you put your opinion (that may well be wrong) over the factual truth of these images.

Btw Hamas have confined their attacks mostly, if not entirely, to within the borders of Israel.

Aaaannnnd who hit who first?....as well as intermittently over the last several years? Just asking in case you forgot......

 

[Vanellus]

Aaaannnnd who hit who first?....as well as intermittently over the last several years? Just asking in case you forgot......

Hmm - playground politics used to justify the killing of around 30,000 people (how does that compare to the town you live in) and the destruction or damage of around 70% of the buildings not to mention water and energy supplies, hospitals, food, medicine, sanitation etc.

And when do you think the first "hit" was made?

 

[civilwarbuff]

Hmm - playground politics used to justify the killing of around 30,000 people (how does that compare to the town you live in) and the destruction or damage of around 70% of the buildings not to mention water and energy supplies, hospitals, food, medicine, sanitation etc.

Well, if that is your best comparison don't ever go into international politics. You'll get your backside handed to you in the first 10 minutes.

And when do you think the first "hit" was made?

Actually in 1948 but this phase got kicked off Oct 7 2023. The preliminary's though have been going on for several years prior to that.

 

[Vanellus]

Well, if that is your best comparison don't ever go into international politics. You'll get your backside handed to you in the first 10 minutes.

Actually in 1948 but this phase got kicked off Oct 7 2023. The preliminary's though have been going on for several years prior to that.

It was you who invoked playground politics "miss he hit me first boo hoo"

And what happened in 1948?

Zionists’ disrespect of partition boundaries​

“Before the end of the mandate and, therefore before any possible intervention by Arab states, the Jews, taking advantage of their superior military preparation and organization, had occupied...most of the Arab cities in Palestine before May 15, 1948. Tiberias was occupied on April 19, 1948, Haifa on April 22, Jaffa on April 28, the Arab quarters in the New City of Jerusalem on April 30, Beisan on May 8, Safad on May 10 and Acre on May 14, 1948...In contrast, the Palestine Arabs did not seize any of the territories reserved for the Jewish state under the partition resolution.” British author, Henry Cattan, “Palestine, The Arabs and Israel.”

from The Origin of the Palestine-Israel Conflict

a webpage and website you could learn a lot from.

 

[civilwarbuff]

"miss he hit me first boo hoo"

Once more, stop lying about what I say. If you can't quote me properly and have to lie then we are done and good riddance. I don't talk with people who lie about what I say.

And what happened in 1948?

Read your history; I am not your teacher.