Israel-Hamas Thread II

[Vanellus]

You said: "...a high ranking Israeli military commander to describe Palestinians as cockroaches." Why does it make a difference where he is when he says it?

Because in post #3127 you wrote: " I would say that is a commander relating to his troops." That was a false statement since a Knesset committee cannot be considered as "his troops".

 

[civilwarbuff]

Not sure how accurate/truthful this story is; no one else seems to be reporting it. Times Now appears to be based in India. This is the first time I have used them as a source so if anyone else can post something to support or discredit this story it would be appreciated.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Hence you were comparing Russia with Israel since we are discussing the idea of Israel justifying killing Gazans for allegedly agreeing with Oct 7. And are you sure the alleged murder of Navalny would actually be legal in Russian law?

Sigh......What is 'legal' in Russian law is whatever dictator Putin says it is. Haven't you figured that out yet? I feel like I am just spinning my wheels in talking with you. You come across to me that you lack critical thinking ability or purposely 'misunderstanding' my comments to simply have something to argue about. It's getting rather tiresome. You should read more news other than just those sources you agree with; it will help expand your knowledge base.

 

[civilwarbuff]

"Hamas" is a broad term that includes their armed wing but also the political party governing Gaza (IRA + Sinn Fein). One wouldn't say an NHS doctor was "Tory" (the current UK government) even though they are being paid by the Tory government.

And that has exactly what to do with my comment......again SMH

 

[civilwarbuff]

Because in post #3127 you wrote: " I would say that is a commander relating to his troops." That was a false statement since a Knesset committee cannot be considered as "his troops".

Your comments are just becoming more and more unbelievable. Exactly HOW did you come across this info that you posted here about what this commander said? So, you think this info is yours alone to share with the world? Do you really believe his troops are so stupid that they can't do the same thing?.....That they are too ignorant to watch news broadcasts or read newspapers? SMH so hard I am getting dizzy.......

 

[Vanellus]

Sigh......What is 'legal' in Russian law is whatever dictator Putin says it is. Haven't you figured that out yet? I feel like I am just spinning my wheels in talking with you. You come across to me that you lack critical thinking ability or purposely 'misunderstanding' my comments to simply have something to argue about. It's getting rather tiresome. You should read more news other than just those sources you agree with; it will help expand your knowledge base.

Your thinking is wrong here. They have a legal system in Russia but the Russian leadership is too powerful to be subject to it.
If someone ordinary steals a car and is caught they will face the legal consequences.

 

[Vanellus]

And that has exactly what to do with my comment......again SMH

You need to do some thinking.

 

[Vanellus]

Your comments are just becoming more and more unbelievable. Exactly HOW did you come across this info that you posted here about what this commander said? So, you think this info is yours alone to share with the world? Do you really believe his troops are so stupid that they can't do the same thing?.....That they are too ignorant to watch news broadcasts or read newspapers? SMH so hard I am getting dizzy.......

I provided a link to a national newspaper in post #3090. Maybe you should look at it. Considering a high ranking military officer addressing a Knesset committee is actually addressing his troops is an incredible (i.e. unbelievable) leap of imagination.

 

[Vanellus]

I don't believe Hamas figures any more than I believe Israeli figures.

There is some wrong thinking here. Let's say the Hamas figures are extremely exaggerated. So rather than c30,000 killed it's only 10,000 killed. Only 10,000 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

[civilwarbuff]

You need to do some thinking.

You didn't answer the question....again.....

 

[civilwarbuff]

Considering a high ranking military officer addressing a Knesset committee is actually addressing his troops is an incredible (i.e. unbelievable) leap of imagination.

And again, your ignorance of the military is showing again. You should stop before you dig that hole any deeper.....Is that Peking Roasted Duck I smell?

 

[JosephZ]

You said: "...a high ranking Israeli military commander to describe Palestinians as cockroaches." Why does it make a difference where he is when he says it?

You really don't see the problem with this?

 

[civilwarbuff]

You really don't see the problem with this?

See #3130

 

[Vanellus]

You didn't answer the question....again.....

The answer is in the original post - you need to think a bit when you read it, or maybe it's a problem with your cognitive bias.

 

[civilwarbuff]

The answer is in the original post - you need to think a bit when you read it, or maybe it's a problem with your cognitive bias.

Nah, I will just let it go....really not worth my time any more.....

 

[Vanellus]

“What I Saw Wasn’t War — It Was Annihilation,” Says U.S. Doctor Who Volunteered in Gaza Hospital​

“Annihilation”: American Surgeon Describes Harrowing Scenes in Gaza

Why are the heroic noble IDF snipers shooting children aged 5 to 8 in the head?
(that's my headline)

What I also saw and what our team also saw was a deliberate attempt to incapacitate the healthcare system. The healthcare system in Gaza has collapsed. Hospitals have been targeted. They no longer have the physical capacity or space to care for their patients. Physicians are being killed. Healthcare workers are being killed. They’re being targeted. They’re being imprisoned. There’s no medical aid or medical equipment that’s coming through. You know, we operated under unsterile conditions, and we had outcomes in procedures that we had to perform in Gaza, unfortunately, because we didn’t have access to basic medical equipment and aid.

And the last thing I would like to add is, while they’re facing this humanitarian crisis, they’re facing a relentless attack, bombs and missiles regularly. And to me and to my team, there did not seem to be a distinction between any military, soldier, terrorist targets versus civilian targets. The stories we heard over and over again were the same. We took care of patients and civilians that were sleeping in their homes. I’ll give you one example. There was a young child. He was 14 years old, a boy, who I had taken care of. He sustained what’s called an open fracture on his left leg. He lost so much flesh that his bone that was fractured was exposed. His story was that he lived in Khan Younis, and they went to a local school trying to seek shelter with other families. That school was bombed. And his entire family was killed, and he was orphaned. So, there seems to be a deliberate attempt to target civilians. And there doesn’t seem to be a very reasonable attempt to protect them in this conflict.

The doctor described the medical equipment he had to use for amputations as being
“a Gigli saw…essentially a segment of barbed wire.”

He spoke about one occasion where parents carried a group of children into the emergency room. Their families had tried to return to their homes in Khan Yunis after Israeli tanks withdrew, but Israeli snipers remained. The children, all aged five to eight, “had single sniper shots to the head”. Not one of them survived

House of Commons yesterday and also e.g.
Commentary: I'm an American doctor who went to Gaza. What I saw wasn't war -- it was annihilation
(from the LA Times article)
So why are the heroic noble IDF snipers shooting children aged 5 to 8 in the head?

 

[Vanellus]

Which 'original' post?

the one you replied to in your 3144 - have you forgotten that?

 

[Vanellus]

Projections for the future Gaza death toll by two universities:

As is so often the case children suffer disproportionately

That can often mean death btw.

 

[Vanellus]

And not wanting to let the heroic child killing IDF snipers get all the glory the Israeli Navy blow up a vital food carrying aid truck whose itinerary had been agreed with the Israeli authorities beforehand

MSN

 

[ralliann]

The answer is in the original post - you need to think a bit when you read it, or maybe it's a problem with your cognitive bias.

Or yours?