You're joking, right?
Glenn Greenwald wrote an excellent piece for the Guardian about how the term terrorism (and its laws) basically only apply to Muslims:
You're the same person who attempts to make out Muslim lands are beacons of tolerance, so its a bit ironic to actually argue you're persecuted in the west.
Your examples may be true, but sorry, they pale in comparison to the way non-muslims are treated in Islamic lands.
If you cant even admit whats happening in the Islamic world, why do you expect people to listen to your own claims?
I understand, but Muslims do have a right to practice their religion in America.
You're the same person who attempts to make out Muslim lands are beacons of tolerance, so its a bit ironic to actually argue you're persecuted in the west.
Not really.Your examples may be true, but sorry, they pale in comparison to the way non-muslims are treated in Islamic lands.
For good reason, right? Who does most of the acts of political and religious terrorism in the world? Muslims.
Well, due to the fact that Glenn Greenwald was a civil rights lawyer and he often writes excellent articles, I'm going to go ahead and trust him more than I trust you.The article in the Guardian is very editorial. It's not news- it's interpretation.
History is forgotten when it comes to how Christians interacted with (and admired ) them as well.Muslims naturally insist that Islam is a peaceful and tolerant religion.
Can anyone think of an Islamic country that gives it's citizens the same freedom and opportunity to practice Judaism and Christianity as Muslims enjoy in Western "Christian" nations?
Is this a fair test of whether a religion is peaceful and tolerant?
Did you even bother reading the article?
".....the term "terrorism" has no discernible meaning other than 'acts of violence committed by Arabs and/or Muslims against westerners'"
The West defines the term, unfortunately. And by doing so, they exclude themselves (i.e. non-Muslims) for the most part. They reserve that term almost exclusively for Muslims.
Say what you will, but Muslims do NOT have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else. And this was just essentially admitted by the Court of Appeals too.
True, true, true as they should be allowed to do. However, due to reason and
respect for others, and particularly our laws, practitioners of that "religion of
peace" aren't allowed to practice all of the acts of their esteemed prophet
Mohammad, i.e. murdering at will, robbing people of their property, forcing
conversions, stoning, beheading, having sex with 9 year olds, etc...
From my study of that "religion of peace", Mohammad trumps anything the
Qu'ran or any of the Holy books may say.
No, nothing is being misrepresented. As far as misrepresentation goesI think your post may be misrepresenting Islam and Mohammad.
And everyone else. Detroit has a fairly high murder rate and the Muslim population is rather low. A few miles away there is a city, Dearborn, with a rather high percentage of Muslims and the murder rate is much lower.Right now, the homicides are being committed by Muslims
That "religion of peace" isn't that peaceful. We're told to believeThat's one fallacy- muddy the term to invalidate the crime? Let's just
call it homocide then. I'm happy with that.
... Right now, the homicides are being committed by Muslims. Almost
exclusively. The term fits. 40 years ago we might also be mentioning
the IRA.
... I honestly think you just don't like it being exposed.
And everyone else. Detroit has a fairly high murder rate and the Muslim population is rather low. A few miles away there is a city, Dearborn, with a rather high percentage of Muslims and the murder rate is much lower.
That's one fallacy- muddy the term to invalidate the crime? Let's just call it homocide then. I'm happy with that.
Right now, the homicides are being committed by Muslims. Almost exclusively. The term fits. 40 years ago we might also be mentioning the IRA.
Um, ok, maybe in your imagination. But whatever helps you sleep at night....and that is where you lose the argument.
So, again, show us how those facts are wrong (that Morales was charged & convicted of terrorism & non-terrorism charges but then the Court of Appeals overturned that conviction and ordered a new trial altogether due to the terrorism charge allowing too much evidence into trial). Because that's what the court said. Show us how both the court & Glenn Greenwald, who exposes their decision, are wrong.This whole article was just bias. You have your lawyers, naturally writing for the Guardian, and I have mine to cite. But I know, from past conversations, that truth is not what you're looking for.
Don't change the discussion. I, as an American who is supposed to be guaranteed the same rights as WASP Americans, am not limited to just two options (stay silent & don't criticize or leave). Thanks anyways.You can always move to another country where your rights are protected. Right?
Talk about derailing! Stay on topic perhaps?
In case you're not trolling:
Sanctions on Iraq in the 90's: 500,000 children under the age of 5 died due to non-Muslims. Madeleine Albright said that price (starving those children to death) was worth it (disgusting excuse for a human being).
Don't change the discussion. I, as an American who is supposed to be guaranteed the same rights as WASP Americans, am not limited to just two options (stay silent & don't criticize or leave). Thanks anyways.
I was responding to the person saying that Muslims were doing all the homicides.
There is no Muslims country that would let Jews or Christians practice with significant peace but nor is there a Christian one.
The morals in almost all Christian countries are secular along with government. This secularization prevention Christians from fulfilling their intent to slaughter infidels.
But in Africa where de facto Christian states exist the Christians almost always burn witches and slaughter gays. Uganda and Liberia is a perfect example of this
There is no Muslims country that would let Jews or Christians practice with significant peace but nor is there a Christian one.
The morals in almost all Christian countries are secular along with government. This secularization prevention Christians from fulfilling their intent to slaughter infidels.
But in Africa where de facto Christian states exist the Christians almost always burn witches and slaughter gays. Uganda and Liberia is a perfect example of this
I live in a "Christian" country where everyone can practice their religion in peace. I can name about 20 others too.
Guess that theory of yours got shot down.
Do you know anything about Christians? Can you please produce Christian literature for the rest of us that tells us that we are to slaughter "infidels"? It's not in our Bible. It's not in any church document I know. It's not in any Church's Confession of Faith, catechism or Articles of Religion.
You're making this up.
Anyone buring witches or slaughtering gays (like they do in Muslim countries) is clearly not a Christian, but a sinner on his way to judgment.
Can we discuss religious tolerance in Muslim countries and the endless war of hatred and violence Muslims are waging against Christians in Africa and Asia. Let's start with the massacre in Kenya and go backwards, shall we? We'll be here a long time.
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