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Is YAHWEH andALLAH the same person?

Is YAHWEH andALLAH the same person?

  • YES

  • NO

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Lion King

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Christians do not agree on loads of things, but that does not change the FACT that Islam does not worship the God of Abraham.

Jesus Christ is the God that Abraham worshipped. Islam, like every other religion out there besides Christianity, worships a false god(s) made to look like the One True God.
 
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Oh, so you can be judgemental, but we can't?
Depends on how one interprets this passage.....

Too bad Islam doesn't take this to heart.....

1 Corin 5:
12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders?
Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

13 But them that are without God judgeth.
Expel the wicked man from among yourselves!.




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Even then we need to tread carefully on judgments.
 
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Lion King said:
Allah (meaning God in English or Elohim in Hebrew) is both a word and a title.

I was meaning that it is the same word and title applied to the Christian God and the Islamic god. Grammatically speaking they are one and the same. However, when speaking of the nature of God, they do not worship the same Allah as I.
 
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What they think and what they do are different. As stated by Father Andrew Stephen Damick, if the god you worship is fundamentally different in nature from the God of Christians, then you worship a different god, for you worship God as if He were made and created by you, and not the other way around.
 
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And to be quite frank, as far as the Apostles and their followers would've been concerned, all people who rejected the divinity of Christ would not have been allowed to commune, as that is the teaching of the Apostles. Even before John was exiled, other Christians knew Christ to be God, as evidenced in the letters of Ignatios of Antioch.

This is why there is closed Communion in Orthodox Churches. Because we believe and worship God as a fundamentally different being.

This is the danger of relativism: it makes the truth to be nothing. We could believe anything we want to if we start saying non-Christians worship the same God as we. Might as well say that so do the Pastafarians! For that matter, So do Hindus (many versions of which are monotheistic).

No, there is one God, one Body, one Baptism, one salvation.
 
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it just looks like modern day moon God worship to me.
Except for the fact that Muslims in no way, shape, or form envision Allah as a "moon god". The idea is as stupid to them, or possibly moreso, than it is to Christians.
 
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If you and I both see an animal, I say it's a tiger, and all that that implies, and you say it's a lion, and all that that implies, are we discussin g the same animal? Even though we believe different things about it?
It means that I an talking about a tiger, while you're talking about a Moon Lion, and are a Liberal. So there.
 
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You kinda make it up as you go, then?
No and if you had any reading comprehension you would understand that I said I did not read all what at the time was 5 pages. I really don't care what you or anyone else thinks I know that islam is evil and of satan and no amount of phony tolerance will change my mind. It is as if someone can not have an opinion without be made fun of by many here

It is sad that Christianity has come to ruin by trying to accept that all other religions worship he one and only Christian God. I have said my piece and you will not see me in this thread again
 
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Accept? I accept that they are Muslim and not Christian. But I've met my share of evil going by the name of Christian as well.
I don't think anyone is suggesting their belief is proper. Most see them just as they see those of judaism. Meaning flat out wrong.
The point being made by some is that the Fox news view many have of Muslims as a whole is purely bigoted. They are not all out to kill you. Some even actually smile and will treat you nice.
Not every Muslim is evil.
Not every Mormon is evil
Not every Buddhist is evil.

Some even have more moral character than many professing Christ. They are your mission rather than your enemy.
 
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true dat
 
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No I do not believe they are the same. Muslims worship a moon god
I have heard about that, but sad to say, I never really studied on that.
Perhaps some Muslims on CF can comment on that.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7790610/
Do muslims worship the moon god?


Originally Posted by smaneck

No.

Do Christians worship the Canaanite god of war?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh_(Canaanite_deity)
Originally Posted by ViaCrucis

Pfft. No.

We worship the sun god.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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TC, Islam is false. Islam worships a false Allah. Christians worship the true Allah, the Allah of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and David, Who sent His Son to earth to die for our sins.

Christians in Arabia have been worshiping Allah since long before Islam even existed. The Christians who were chased from Mosul worshiped Allah. They would say "Quddūsun Allāh, Quddūsun al-qawī, Quddūsun alladhī lâ yamūt urḥamnā."

What does that mean? "Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us!"
 
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I thin Topcare was speaking about the religion (that is Islam) and not people. When I look at Islam, all I see is the spirit of the antiChrist at work.
 
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We will see righteous and blameless people from everywhere and from every time saved by Christ God.

For the Lord knows the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked will perish.

Alleluia alleluia alleluia!

God be gracious to me a sinner.
 
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The meaning of Anti-Christ is "other than Christ".

While we are watching in disgust at the worst of mankind, anti-Chirst stands over our shoulder and whispers to us about our righteousness. While at the same time teaching us less and less as the years go by, so that what is called Christianity represents nothing of historic Christianity.

All is lost as we lose focus on our prayers. Our enemy is a master of propaganda.

God be gracious to me a sinner.
 
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Even then we need to tread carefully on judgments.

It's called discernment,Lib...
The Holy Ghost, out of the mouth of Paul, says, "Prove all things. Hold fast that which is good." Here are two great truths:

1st...The right, duty, and necessity of private judgment. "Prove all things."

2nd...The duty and necessity of keeping firm hold upon truth. "Hold fast that which is good."
 
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