Is YAHWEH andALLAH the same person?

[Targaryen]

I've never understood how people seem to struggle so with this.

Justification of their own faith...you know, we have all the answers, we're the true faith...that type of thing.

Puts God in a box IMO, and if the bible is any indication, God can't be placed in a box.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Most Christian say God instead of Yahweh.
If Allah is a different God than the Christian God, then Judaism must be worshipping a different God, since they do not believe in Christ, correct? IMHO.
ALLAH is simply the Arabic word for Yahweh, so I would vote other if that would have been an option,
tho I am inclined to say they are both the same.



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I'm sure most christian refer to God as "Dios" Most christians probably speak spanish as it is the second most spoken language in the world and most spanish speakers are catholic.

 

[GoingByzantine]

"Allah" is a perfectly valid word for the Godhead of the Holy Trinity.

Do not forget that many Arabs were Christians before they were Muslim.

Acts 2:11 (NKJV)
Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.

Allah is the Arabic word for God, and ignorant Christians who look at the Christian faith as a Western religion only, often ignore the history of the word Allah. There are still living Christians today who use the word Allah, and to them it has nothing to do with any "moon god."

 

[GoingByzantine]

"Allah" is a perfectly valid word for the Godhead of the Holy Trinity.

Do not forget that many Arabs were Christians before they were Muslim.

Acts 2:11 (NKJV)
Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.

Allah is the Arabic word for God, and ignorant Christians who look at the Christian faith as a Western religion only, often ignore the history of the word Allah. There are still living Christians today who use the word Allah, and to them it has nothing to do with any "moon god."

 

[bbbbbbb]

"Allah" is a perfectly valid word for the Godhead of the Holy Trinity.

Do not forget that many Arabs were Christians before they were Muslim.

Acts 2:11 (NKJV)
Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.

Allah is the Arabic word for God, and ignorant Christians who look at the Christian faith as a Western religion only, often ignore the history of the word Allah. There are still living Christians today who use the word Allah, and to them it has nothing to do with any "moon god."

What word do converts to Christianity from Islam use for God?

 

[Armoured]

What word do converts to Christianity from Islam use for God?

"Allah", if they're Arabic speakers. Something else if their not.

 

[GoingByzantine]

What word do converts to Christianity from Islam use for God?

I'm sure that depends on the spatiality of where they converted, and under what denominational view of Christianity they converted to.

 

[simonthezealot]

It is a generic title for whatever arabic god was considered the highest god, to one tribe it meant their god to another it meant another, the God of the bible is not the same God as islams allah...

 

[simonthezealot]

If Jesus name is not confessed it is not God.

 

[Targaryen]

If Jesus name is not confessed it is not God.

Explain that to the Jewish people on the forum.



I swear people would rather make judgments then really look at what they are saying.

 

[simonthezealot]

1 John 4:1-6King James Version (KJV)

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

 

[simonthezealot]

22, "Who is the liar, but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ. This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son."

 

[simonthezealot]

Explain that to the Jewish people on the forum.



I swear people would rather make judgments then really look at what they are saying.

Jews that deny that Christ is God, worship a false god and have been blinded for a time.

 

[simonthezealot]

God is Jesus!

 

[Armoured]

*eyeroll*

 

[simonthezealot]

Who's that directed at?

 

[Targaryen]

<snip>

Jews <snip>, worship a false god and have been blinded for a time.

Nonfactual and therefore irrelevant.

 

[sculleywr]

I hear many people say when Muslims refer to ALLAH they are worshiping the same God Christians worship YAHWEH and others say Islam is worships ALLAH as a moon God and is NOT the same God Christians worship.

So is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob YHWH/YAH/YAHWEH... etc, the same God ALLAH that Islam claims to worship??

I'll shoot straight. The word Allah means God in Arabic. Islam uses the same word for God as Arabic Christians do, as illustrated in the following prayer used in Arabic Orthodox Churches:
&#1602;&#1583;&#1608;&#1587;&#1612; &#1575;&#1604;&#1604;&#1607; &#1548; &#1602;&#1583;&#1608;&#1587;&#1612; &#1575;&#1604;&#1602;&#1608;&#1610; &#1548; &#1602;&#1583;&#1608;&#1587;&#1612; &#1575;&#1604;&#1584;&#1610; &#1604;&#1575; &#1610;&#1605;&#1608;&#1578; &#1573;&#1585;&#1581;&#1605;&#1606;&#1575; (Quddouson Allââh, Quddouson ul-qawee, Quddouson allazee la yamout, Irhamna)
translation: Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us.

However, Muslims do not worship the same Allah, for their Allah is an Allah of retribution, judgment, and anger, leading into a life of heresy from Christ. The one true Allah is the Allah of Scripture in the Trinity.

 

[sculleywr]

<snip>



Nonfactual and therefore irrelevant.

There is actually a point to it. Since the Jews rejected Christ, they rejected God. Since the beginning of the Church, those Jews who rejected Christ have erected a god which is fundamentally different than the true God. Therefore, it is a false god that Jews worship. As Christ said, they worship what they do not know, but we worship what we know, for salvation is of Christ, in His Church, and not of the Jews any longer.

 

[GratiaCorpusChristi]

"Allah" is a perfectly valid word for the Godhead of the Holy Trinity.

Do not forget that many Arabs were Christians before they were Muslim.

Acts 2:11 (NKJV)
Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.

Allah is the Arabic word for God, and ignorant Christians who look at the Christian faith as a Western religion only, often ignore the history of the word Allah. There are still living Christians today who use the word Allah, and to them it has nothing to do with any "moon god."

I'm not certain, though, that Arab Christians called the Godhead of the Trinity "Allah" before the seventh century. I'd be curious if anyone who reads Arabic could look into it. The Patrologia Orientalis is the standard collection of non-Greek Eastern Fathers in their original languages, but while a lot of them (Aphrahat, Ephrem the Syrian, Isaac of Ninevah) wrote in Syriac, there are a couple, I think, who wrote in Arabic prior to the advent of Islam.