Is YAHWEH andALLAH the same person?

[Targaryen]

Therefore, it is a false god that Jews worship.

Still nonfactual and irrelevant.

 

[topcare]

I hear many people say when Muslims refer to ALLAH they are worshiping the same God Christians worship YAHWEH and others say Islam is worships ALLAH as a moon God and is NOT the same God Christians worship.

So is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob YHWH/YAH/YAHWEH... etc, the same God ALLAH that Islam claims to worship??

No I do not believe they are the same. Muslims worship a moon god

 

[Targaryen]

No I do not believe they are the same. Muslims worship a moon god

We've been over this...I love it when people can't read

No wonder atheists find reasons to tear the faith apart, cause those that claim the faith do little in the way of actual research.

That Allah is different then the Abrahamic one Mohammed preached to the Arabs about.

 

[topcare]

I don't always read 5 pages of people's opinion nor do I go with the liberal opinion that God and allah are the same

 

[Targaryen]

I don't always read 5 pages of people's opinion nor do I go with the liberal opinion that God and allah are the same

It not a liberal opinion...It's a historically researched opinion.

Thanks for playing

 

[topcare]

It not a liberal opinion...It's a historically researched opinion.

Thanks for playing

Nope, it's the enemy infiltrating so we can give up on witnessing because after all allah,
ganesha, and other various deities are all God. They are not God is exclusive and I feel sory for people who buy the lie that the satanic allah and God are the same

 

[sculleywr]

Nope, it's the enemy infiltrating so we can give up on witnessing because after all allah, ganesha, and other various deities are all God. They are not God is exclusive and I feel sory for people who buy the lie that the satanic allah and God are the same

Allah means God. You don't yell about a Frenchman worshiping Dieu or a Japanese man worshipful Kami, or a Spanish man worshiping Dios. Allah means God.

 

[Targaryen]

Nope, it's the enemy infiltrating so we can give up on witnessing because after all allah,
ganesha, and other various deities are all God. They are not God is exclusive and I feel sory for people who buy the lie that the satanic allah and God are the same

Get a grade 9 history book and read on Islam as it's taught in public schools. but I guess you won't, cause then you can't exactly justify your bigotry.

 

[sculleywr]

Still nonfactual and irrelevant.

So God didn't send His Son for our salvation? That is the god they worship. That is not the same God I worship. Do you worship a god who didn't send his son?

 

[Targaryen]

So God didn't send His Son for our salvation? That is the god they worship. That is not the same God I worship. Do you worship a god who didn't send his son?

Yes he did, but as soon as you put qualifiers that they worship a false god now cause they didn't accept Jesus as Messiah, then you immediately make any point you have on that irrelevant.

 

[sculleywr]

Yes he did, but as soon as you put qualifiers that they worship a false god now cause they didn't accept Jesus as Messiah, then you immediately make any point you have on that irrelevant.

They worship a god that didn't send his son. The true God sent His son.

Therefore, they are fundamentally different.

 

[Targaryen]

They worship a god that didn't send his son. The true God sent His son.

Therefore, they are fundamentally different.

We still worship the same Abrahmic God as they do, we just know more about it cause we accepted the full truth.

Doesn't change the facts the Jews or Muslims worship that same God, just under their own viewpoints.

Do I agree with the Jewish rejection or the Muslim one, no....but do they worship the same God, yes.

Spin isn't history or fact...it's spin. And that's exactly what you and topcare's point is...spin, not truth.

I'll take the truth over spin any day...I may not agree with everything involved with Islam, but denying it is what it is cause of words used or cause of how different it is then Christianity is not just wrong, it's willfully ignorant.

 

[GoingByzantine]

I believe that most Muslims think they are worshiping God the Father, but Muslims are certainly non-trinitarian. Certainly not Christian.

 

[Mama Kidogo]

I believe that most Muslims think they are worshiping God the Father, but Muslims are certainly non-trinitarian. Certainly not Christian.

Well that's a given.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

 

[sculleywr]

We still worship the same Abrahmic God as they do, we just know more about it cause we accepted the full truth. Doesn't change the facts the Jews or Muslims worship that same God, just under their own viewpoints. Do I agree with the Jewish rejection or the Muslim one, no....but do they worship the same God, yes. Spin isn't history or fact...it's spin. And that's exactly what you and topcare's point is...spin, not truth. I'll take the truth over spin any day...I may not agree with everything involved with Islam, but denying it is what it is cause of words used or cause of how different it is then Christianity is not just wrong, it's willfully ignorant.

If I think you are a homosexual and am friends with you based on that viewpoint, then I am not friends with you, but with my personal recreation of you.

They worship a god that is fundamentally different. It is illogical to say otherwise. With that viewpoint, you could say Buddhists and Mormons worship the same god

 

[simonthezealot]

Still nonfactual and irrelevant.

Scripture is not irrelevant and non-factual... The prophet Isaiah prophecied it and the Christ fulfilled it by hardening their hearts and blinding them.

 

[sculleywr]

We still worship the same Abrahmic God as they do, we just know more about it cause we accepted the full truth. Doesn't change the facts the Jews or Muslims worship that same God, just under their own viewpoints. Do I agree with the Jewish rejection or the Muslim one, no....but do they worship the same God, yes. Spin isn't history or fact...it's spin. And that's exactly what you and topcare's point is...spin, not truth. I'll take the truth over spin any day...I may not agree with everything involved with Islam, but denying it is what it is cause of words used or cause of how different it is then Christianity is not just wrong, it's willfully ignorant.

With this logic, Buddhists worship the same god. The Jewish god says, acts, and loves differently than the Christian God.

The point is that truth is not relative. You either worship God through THE way, or you don't worship God at all

 

[simonthezealot]

Again, allah is a generic title for whatever arabic god was considered the highest god, to one tribe it meant their god to another it meant another, the God of the bible is not the same God as islams allah...

 

[Targaryen]

If I think you are a homosexual and am friends with you based on that viewpoint, then I am not friends with you, but with my personal recreation of you.

Huh? This has exactly what to do with the topic you can't get?

They worship a god that is fundamentally different. It is illogical to say otherwise. With that viewpoint, you could say Buddhists and Mormons worship the same god

No, your viewpoint is illogical. It's based on zero fact and historical and therefore non-religious examination and skewed into a viewpoint that is religious.

Like I said, spin is not fact...it's spin. And you are willfully ignorant of that.