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I agree that it was Jesus in the fire with them, but technically, the king said "like a son of the gods" (see the more modern translations), which proves nothing regarding the eternal Sonship of Christ.
Well, while I find Modern Translations helpful in updating the KJV in what it says, I do not make Modern Translations my final word of authority. For a person can make the Word of God say almost anything if they do not have a nailed down one Word of God to rely upon like the KJV. For how do you know that the Modern Translations that say, "son of the Gods" got it right?
I believe the KJV is divinely inspired for several Biblical reasons.
1. Biblical Numerics.
2. Comparing the KJV vs. Modern Translations.
3. God's Word says that His Word is perfect and that it will be preserved for all generations.
2. Comparing the KJV vs. Modern Translations.
3. God's Word says that His Word is perfect and that it will be preserved for all generations.
Anyways, "son of the gods" sounds like a perversion because Jesus is not the "Son of the Gods" but He is the Son of God like the KJV says. For the devil would like nothing more than to bring the name of God down to his level. Also, the KJV has shown itself to be superior in many different ways Biblically. While I use Modern Translations to update the KJV language, the Modern Translations are not always 100% reliable. For the devil's name has been placed in many of them and many important truths in God's Word have been watered down or nuetered. But believers have a choice to draw from one vine or the other as their final Word of authority.
food4thought said:Once again, the newer translations reveal that it is more proper to place an "a" before "Son of Man", but there is no question that this reference is applied to Christ as He repeatedly called Himself the Son of Man. I must admit being a bit confused at this point... how could Jesus be called the Son of Man before His Incarnation?
While Jesus was not the Son of Man in the sense of taking on the flesh of Adam yet, Jesus could be called this still because angels have been referred to as men in the Bible and Jesus had made many pre-incarnate appearances under the title of: "The Messenger of the Lord" or the "Angel of the Lord" (KJV). Granted, please do not misunderstand me here. Jesus is not an angel. Jesus is the second person of the Godhead or Trinity and Jesus is God Almighty and He has always existed as God. What I am meaning to say is that angels have bodies. Spiritual bodies. These are similar to physical bodies because they were able to eat food and drink that Abraham served to them. In the Incarnation Jesus took on a physical body of a man from the flesh of Adam. Think of it more as like God putting on a man suit. An empty shell of a body covered or housed the Living Word. For Jesus referred to His body as a temple. Yes, I believe Jesus suppressed His power of Omniscience during the Incarnation (or in the beginning) so as to be like a man in order to be our substitute. Anyways, what I am trying to say is that Jesus took on the flesh of angels or put on an angel suit or covering during the Old Testament. Jesus did not possess an angel already in existence that had it's own soul. No, no. Jesus merely had a spiritual empty shell of a body made to house His glory as GOD (So as not to kill people or to shock them by His holiness). Think of it like the pillar of fire by night and the pillar of smoke by day as a covering for GOD. That is the same thing I am talking about here in reference to Jesus making pre-incarnate appearances in the OT.
Anyways, to see verses on Christ being the "Messenger of the Lord." see this thread here:
Jesus is the Messenger of the Lord in the Old Testament.
food4thought said:Ahhhh... I see now.
Sometimes GOD sees things as already done in His mind long before it actually happens.
"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" (Isaiah 46:10).
For Revelation 13:8 says that, "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
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