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It means completed, finished, having done what it was created for. Eliminated? No it is still.history. Saturday still happens. We just picked another day to gather for worship. The day Jesus rose.Fulfilled does not mean eliminated.
Listen to you.
The Bible says that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
Perhaps the preconception is to assume the Jewish Sabbath is for Christians.
Not before Exodus chapter sixteen.
That is only one of the definitions of "remember". Another is to observe.
Did you really think they would forget?
I don't think you can split the TCs up and send some this way and some that way. They are a singular thing. And are a subset of the whole law, know as simply "the law".no ... he says to remember the Sabbath ..... remember something that is already there ... and it was there before there were any jews ... the 7th day
Do you believe all of the 10 commandments are entirely for the Jews?
Did you think the Israelites forgot about the Sabbath four chapters after it was given to them in Exodus chapter sixteen? I would assume they had been keeping it on a weekly basis. They were still eating manna when the TCs were given, right?Forget what? Observe what? something that was already in place.
I have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
Exodus 31:13
“Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. … 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
Thanks for your post. What do you make of this?Hello
As followers of Christ, we are to keep His commandments. The work of God is to believe in He whom God sent.
Two commandments the Lord gave us: Love the Lord your God with your all and your neighbour as yourself, for on these two hang all the law and the prophets. Meaning, the TCs are contained within the teachings of Christ, and by being a true born again believer in Christ, we are keeping the TCs by keeping Christ. This is why it is misplaced to think that the TCs are not for Christians.
Something important to note: of the things the council at Jerusalem decided upon regarding the Gentiles, Sabbath observance is not found among them (Acts 15). The NT scriptures gives no commands to observe the Sabbath nor are there any warnings for breaking it, all this essentially means that Sabbath keeping has become a non-issue following the establishment of the early church.
However, it is true that out of the 10, the Sabbath commandment has a unique position. There is no need for theories or speculations, just let the Scriptures speak for themselves. The Sabbath was meant to be a constant sign (as you mention) of the promise of the Lord's covenant with His people and the eternal respite the faithful and obedient have in Him. The signs point the way, but once you arrive at the destination, there are no more need for signs - for you have arrived.
Christ is the destination and for those who are in Him, every day is a "Sabbath", even unto eternity.
Matthew 11:28-30 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
When talking to the rich young man, Jesus said that if he would have eternal life, he must keep the commandments (then lists the ones that refer strictly to our relations with one another, rather than God- but would Jesus have us only treat our neighbors well?)/Thanks for your reply.
Where did Jesus tell us to keep THE Commandments?
Some of them? (pick the ones you like and ignore the rest?)
What do you mean by "a less legalistic way?" ??
False premise .. The Sabbath was never abolished by Christianity, but by the politics of later generations who were of the Gentile mind. They had well and truly lost the authentic knowledge of the faith at that time (hence the need for ecumenical councils to firmly establish the core tenets for the benefit of future generations .. although they had already got that one wrong .. and we would wonder how! .. humans are notorious for making up their own ideas in God's name).I have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Can't be. "The root is holy, and you being a wild branch have been grafted into the holy vine" .. "do not be haughty but tremble, for if He did not spare the natural branches when they rebelled, so He will not spare you".Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
Again, think on the parable of the olive tree through Romans 11: the Gentiles grafted into Christ are considered Israel for that purpose (Romans 9:6-8).The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
On these two commandments hang all the law and prophets - so by implication, if we are exercising the two greatest commandments, we will be fulfilling the entire law and prophets: Keep the Sabbath day holy, do no work on it, neither you, your family, your slaves or your animals .. why? "Because in six days did God make the world, and on the seventh He rested" - I am the Lord your God. Therefore: Love the Lord your God, and whenever you did it to the least of these, my brethren, it was me you did it to. Therefore love your neighbour as yourself.Thanks for your reply.
Where did Jesus tell us to keep THE Commandments?
"Baptism saves you, not through the physical purging of filth, but a pledge of a clear conscience toward God".Some of them? (pick the ones you like and ignore the rest?)
What do you mean by "a less legalistic way?" ??
Thanks.
How would that help?
Didn't the Jerusalem Council set us free from the law? (including the TCs)
No, Christianity is Judaism "Those of the Gentiles who were turning to Christ" - Christ is our High Priest: where every priest is prevented from continuing in office on account of his death, we are of an everlasting priesthood. Therefore He is able to save completely those who are coming to God through Him - that is Judaism in the name of Jesus. The antichrist has made it into a very different religion when you begin to look at what churches teach through that lens.The Bible says that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
Perhaps the preconception is to assume the Jewish Sabbath is for Christians.
"Let no man judge you for the keeping of days and festivals" - to do so would be to place law "above" us, but when it is administered by the hand of another man. Rather, having our relationship with Christ, it is He who condemns (Romans 8:34).. so that the law is not the thing that we are under, but we are under Christ who judges us according to the law.Are you claiming that we are under the law?
How about obsolete?
Hebrews 8:13
By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
We are still bound to obey the commandment regarding the sabbath. Jesus simply clarified it for us.I have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
Exodus 31:13
“Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. … 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
Something important to note: of the things the council at Jerusalem decided upon regarding the Gentiles, Sabbath observance is not found among them (Acts 15). The NT scriptures gives no commands to observe the Sabbath nor are there any warnings for breaking it, all this essentially means that Sabbath keeping has become a non-issue following the establishment of the early church.
This is the first appearance of the word "Sabbath" in the Bible.
Exodus 16:23
He said to them, “This is what the Lord commanded: ‘Tomorrow is to be a day of sabbath rest, a holy sabbath to the Lord. So bake what you want to bake and boil what you want to boil. Save whatever is left and keep it until morning.’”
I have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
Exodus 31:13
“Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. … 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
The Moral law has been written on the fleshy tables of our heartsI have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
Exodus 31:13
“Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. … 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
Thanks.
How would that help?
Didn't the Jerusalem Council set us free from the law?
Mark 2:27-28
Then he said to them, "The Sabbath (7th day Sabbath) was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
When I was 18 I worked during the summer doing moving and storage loading and unloading moving vans. I carried boxes, furniture, appliances, even baby grand or upright pianos. By the time I got home on Friday night all I wanted to do was eat, shower and sleep. When I woke up the next morning, sometimes my hands were so stiff I had to work my hands back and forth to try to rid myself of the stiffness. I ate and rested all day, my sore muscles recovering. By Monday I was ready to start again.Not before Exodus chapter sixteen.
That is only one of the definitions of "remember". Another is to observe.
Did you really think they would forget?
The ten commandments are for sinners. Without the ten commandments people could do anything and say that it is not considered a sin. But after we are born again, the laws are written in our hearts. We know what is sin and what is not.I have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
Exodus 31:13
“Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. … 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
I have a theory that the very presence of the Sabbath commandment in the Ten informs us that the Ten Commandments are not for Christians.
Is the presence of the Sabbath Commandment
proof that the TCs are not for Christians?
The Bible tells us that the Sabbath is a sign between God and the Israelites alone.
That being the case, how could a set of commandments carrying
the Sabbath commandment be for anyone else?
Exodus 31:13
“Say to the Israelites, ‘You must observe my Sabbaths. This will be a sign between me and you for the generations to come, so you may know that I am the Lord, who makes you holy.
Ezekiel 20:12, 20
Also I gave them my Sabbaths as a sign between us, so they would know that I the Lord made them holy. … 20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
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