Is the fundamental gap between creationists and non-creationists...

[AV1611VET]

Go try it .. and report back here with the results asap, please?

No, thanks -- women aren't lab rats.

Polygamy is a sin.

And I don't need to employ the scientific method to ascertain that.

 

[AV1611VET]

I couldn't do that.

Others could, though.

Is polygamy okay?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Is polygamy okay?

It certainly is in some cultures. Does your church accept it?

 

[dlamberth]

Others could, though.

Is polygamy okay?

I couldn't live that way. And I don't live in a society where it is ok. Okay?
What's that have to do with anything? Honest question.

 

[AV1611VET]

It certainly is in some cultures.

Moral relativism?

Does your church accept it?

You should know the answer to that one.

What does our Manual say?

 

[dlamberth]

Others could, though.

Is polygamy okay?

In thinking about your question deeper, if you or anyone else wishes to live in a polygamist relationship, that's their life they chose to live and not mine to judge. So I guess I'd have to say that polygamy is okay.

 

[AV1611VET]

I couldn't live that way.

Nor could I.

And I don't live in a society where it is ok.

Nor do I.

Okay?

Okay.

What's that have to do with anything? Honest question.

Just wondering how you judge polygamy.

 

[AV1611VET]

In thinking about your question deeper, if you or anyone else wishes to live in a polygamist relationship, that's their life they chose to live and not mine to judge.

Would you be against a country that outlawed polygamy as a crime?

So I guess I'd have to say that polygamy is okay.

Even if the law books say otherwise?

 

[SelfSim]

Would you be against a country that outlawed polygamy as a crime?Even if the law books say otherwise?

How on earth is polygamy a difference between creationists and non creationists over the nature of basic reality?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Moral relativism?

Sure. Polygamy was, as you well know, perfectly acceptable in OT. Seems God doesn't have a problem with it - so why do you?

 

[disciple Clint]

A Mormon doing missionary work in China told
me he knew the whole Joseph Smith / gold book
story was true because God unmistakably told him
it is all true.

Well if it is true then everything that Joseph Smith revealed as prophesy would have happened and that is not the case.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Well if it is true then everything that Joseph Smith revealed as prophesy would have happened and that is not the case.

Why? Lots of failed prophesies in the bible but you believe it's still The Truth.

 

[disciple Clint]

You appear to be unwilling to admit you do not have the evidence you claim to have. Honesty seems to be in very short supply among so many Christians in these forums - that's a very sad state of affairs.

Is is honest to ask for evidence and then fail to examine it? Refute the evidence if you can but to say that there is no evidence in the link I provided you is simply not true.

 

[disciple Clint]

Why? Lots of failed prophesies in the bible but you believe it's still The Truth.

Name a few and show your evidence

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Is is honest to ask for evidence and then fail to examine it? Refute the evidence if you can but to say that there is no evidence in the link I provided you is simply not true.

Funny how multiple posters have pointed out that the evidence you claim is not in anything you post. You made an assertion, claimed to have evidence to support that assertion, refuse to present that evidence and now you want me (again) to refute something that does not exist. For the last time: #DIV/0!

I've kept my side of the deal twice now, you need to do the same and stop making dishonest claims. Where's your evidence?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Name a few and show your evidence

I'll do that when you present the evidence for historical accuracy of the gospels and empirical evidence for ID. Or you can admit you have nothing.

 

[disciple Clint]

I'll do that when you present the evidence for historical accuracy of the gospels and empirical evidence for ID. Or you can admit you have nothing.

The games people play. I have done that you will not read it and once again you are unable to defend your position on one of your posts.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

The games people play. I have done that you will not read it and once again you are unable to defend your position on one of your posts.

You have not done it. I am not the only person who has told you this.

If you wish to continue in this vein we can end the conversation. One last time - please present:
1. Evidence of historical accuracy of gospels
2. Empirical evidence for ID

If you do not present the evidence or admit you have nothing this conversation is over.

 

[disciple Clint]

You have not done it. I am not the only person who has told you this.

If you wish to continue in this vein we can end the conversation. One last time - please present:
1. Evidence of historical accuracy of gospels
2. Empirical evidence for ID

If you do not present the evidence or admit you have nothing this conversation is over.

See post 230 and this conversation is in fact over.

 

[Skreeper]

Well, in heaven there will be no death, and no reason to be sad.

If I were a believer and all you say is true, then that would mean the rest of my family and loved ones who are unrepentant sinners will burn in hell and I will have that knowledge for eternity.

How the bloody hell can you not be sad and have eternal bliss when you know that you are alone in heaven and everyone you have ever loved is suffering and being tortured at the same time?

If you can look me in the eye and tell me that that would not bother you then you are a monster.