Is the Earth flat or round???

[JacksBratt]

What is your source for that picture?

That picture is take with a standard lens from a weather balloon at 100,000 feet. There have been many of these tests since technology that can do such tests is now available to the layman. You can see lots of pictures of the horizon from very high altitudes that show a flat horizon.

You can also google lots of pictures from varying altitudes, even some from on the ground, that show a curve.

Which do you think would be harder to fake?

 

[JacksBratt]

Your photos demonstrate nothing.

I am sorry. I can no longer take you seriously. You are here just to have some fun pretending to believe this ridiculous concept. Joke is on me for engaging with you.

OK... God Bless.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

God bless you as well.

 

[d taylor]

What I was trying to get at is that the ratio of 200 miles to the distance to the horizon is probably insignificant so it would look about the same. What is your basis fro believing only 30 at most.

I am not making my comparisons to the horizon. I am comparing the ground below, the mountain or the area in the ISS below where the smoke trail is as compared to the area below the red bull where the mountainous texture can be seen.

 

[A_Thinker]

Yep. It's not funny when an organization that gets 53 million dollars a day from the US tax payers... has to use a kiddie lens (fish eye) and cannot afford are big boy lens to take real pictures. Pity.

It may end up looking like this...... Shocking....

Your photo is distorted.

The antenna in the left of the photo shows to be concave if placed on a straight edge ...

 

[A_Thinker]

On the topic of Antarctica being an Island:

In 1773 Captain Cook became the first modern explorer known to have breached the Antarctic circle and reached the ice barrier. This expedition offered an exciting chance to find proof of either the flat or globe Earth models because Captain Cook intended to sail completely around Antarctica looking for inlets through the ice-wall. If the Earth was indeed a globe 25,000 miles in equatorial circumference as the heliocentrists claimed, then a complete circumnavigation of Antarctica would be approximately 12,000 miles, and if the Earth was flat with Antarctica surrounding the entire circumference, a complete circumnavigation of Antarctica would have to take over 50,000 miles. During three voyages lasting three years and eight days, Captain Cook and crew sailed a total of 60,000 miles along the Antarctic coastline never once finding an inlet or path through or beyond the massive glacial wall! Captain Cook wrote: "The ice extended east and west far beyond the reach of our sight, while the southern half of the horizon was illuminated by rays of light which were reflected from the ice to a considerable height."

Later voyages by Captain James Clark Ross and Captain George Nares in the 19th century further confirmed Cook's findings. Ross's expedition spent 4 years and 5 months in heavily armored warships failing to find an entry point beyond the southern glacial wall, and Nares spent over 3 years circumnavigating Antarctica, taking an admittedly indirect course, but clocking in nearly 69,000 miles total! If Antarctica truly was the tiny ice-continent claimed by globe-Earth proponents, all of these expeditions would have ended years sooner.

From:

The Atlantean Conspiracy: History

When will you discard Eric Dubay's dubious fictions which have been disproved again and again (i.e. the Atlantean Conspiracy) ?

The following is a map of Cook's so-called route around Antarctica ...


The route of Cook's second voyage

The second voyage of James Cook, from 1772 to 1775, commissioned by the British government with advice from the Royal Society,[1] was designed to circumnavigate the globe as far south as possible to finally determine whether there was any great southern landmass, or Terra Australis.

Subsequent circumnavigations have pegged the distance at around 22,000 nautical miles ...

First circumnavigation of Antarctica by tourist ship | Polar Record | Cambridge Core

 

[The Barbarian]

Your photo is distorted.

The antenna in the left of the photo shows to be concave if placed on a straight edge ...

It's not hard to reverse the distortion and straighten out the antenna:

 

[joshua 1 9]

Isaiah 40:22 speaks of a round earth.

The word in Isaiah 40:22 is "circle". This means circuit. Something very close to this is the word for camel. A camel travels back and forth between two points. They call this to run and return. It is like our breath or our blood where oxygen is delivered to the body. This has to do with male and female where God makes them male and female and then He unites them together as one. Just like the Earth and the Moon are duel planets caught in a dance together. So they are separate but united together as one. Just like we have Heaven and Earth and Jesus prayed for the Earth to become like Heaven. "On Earth as Heaven". So there is a dichotomy involved here. Disney movies talk about the circle of life in lion king and something similar in Pocahontas color of the wind.

 

[Kaon]

That picture is take with a standard lens from a weather balloon at 100,000 feet. There have been many of these tests since technology that can do such tests is now available to the layman. You can see lots of pictures of the horizon from very high altitudes that show a flat horizon.

You can also google lots of pictures from varying altitudes, even some from on the ground, that show a curve.

Which do you think would be harder to fake?

Who do you believe? Me, or your lying eyes?

 

[usexpat97]

My faith in humanity is dropping.

 

[Kaon]

My faith in humanity is dropping.

You are being let down because humans are unfaithful, in general (this includes academics). You should reserve your faith for the Most High God.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Who do you believe? Me, or your lying eyes?

In particle physics, the observer effect, in general use, refers to any effect caused by the act of observation. ... The Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states that the more accurately the momentum of a particle is measured the less accurately its position can be known & vice versa.

 

[joshua 1 9]

My faith in humanity is dropping.

Moses and Jesus are the only two people we can trust. There is a small number of people in the Bible that help us to understand what Moses and Jesus are telling us. We also have the Holy Spirit of God to be our Teacher, Helper and Guide. There is a library in Heaven that has all wisdom, knowledge and understand. So we have answers to any question and a solution to any problem. The Angels help us with that. Our Angel can go to that library to do research work for us.

 

[usexpat97]

By the way, while Heisenberg's principle is certainly well-known, in Quantum computing, the act of measuring a particle actually alters its spin and CAUSES it to be known.

 

[Kaon]

In particle physics, the observer effect, in general use, refers to any effect caused by the act of observation. ... The Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle states that the more accurately the momentum of a particle is measured the less accurately its position can be known & vice versa.

That is because you can't observe the momentum and position at the same time in the same direction (they don't commute), but other things do commute. Specifically, the canonical coordinate and it's conjugate do NOT commute, but the coordinate operator "y" and canonical conjugate p_x commute.

[y, p_x] = 0

Which means there is no "uncertainty" or bound for observing with these two operators simultaneously. They have "infinite" precision.

What people often take away from uncertainty is that you can't know two things at the same time. In fact, you can (simultenaity), but those dimensions have to be independent, and usually perpendicular. Knowing the location of a particle on a line AND it's speed and mass (because mass is energy) on the same line is, of course, bounded, because we are restricted to one dimension, and momentum is a change in that dimension.


That is why two independent people seeing the alleged same thing, and disagreeing is such a serious issue. Both observe something; both spit out different "eigenvalues" of information, which suggests the wavefunction (what is creating what is being seen) is faulty, or the operator (human) is - or both. This is also likely why the Most High God demands at least two witnesses, and two for fellowship. Two independent operators that commute (same "eigenvalue" of information) provide for simultaneous verification.

The pen is blue, no matter how much you call it red. (Liars are faulty operators that spit out incorrect "eigenvalues" of information.)



So, it comes down to whether people believe other people they are taught to listen to, or if they trust themselves. It is very easy to deny what your eyes see when there is social pressure to "observe" what everyone else does.

 

[usexpat97]

When we measure an electron's spin at a perfect 90 degrees, we call that a random number generator.

 

[joshua 1 9]

That is why two independent people seeing the alleged same thing, and disagreeing is such a serious issue. This is also likely why the Most High God demands at least two witnesses, and two for fellowship. Two independent operators that commute (same "eigenvalue" of information) provide for simultaneous verification.

Sounds like me and my wife, sometimes we do not agree. So she looks for people that thinks the way she does to reinforce her beliefs.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Pizzas are flat and they are Circles.

 

[ewq1938]

Pizzas are flat and they are Circles.

I had a square pizza once and it had so many toppings it was not flat at all.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Pizzas are flat and they are Circles.

The Earth is a pizza?