Is it wrong to leave sheep in pits on the Sabbath?

[Doran]

Paul also admits to this missiology strategy in 1 Cor 9

v19-20 "Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law." Paul's goal is not to become one under the law, or simply to belong or be bound by a system. his goal is to "win as many as possible"

Yes! He became LIKE a Jew to win his brothers and sisters, according to the flesh, over to Christ. And so, he slso became one LIKE under the law.

 

[ralliann]

In defence of healing on the Sabbath Jesus uses an example of pulling sheep out of pits (Mat 12) to show that doing good on the Sabbath is lawful.

Is that all Jesus was doing? Coming to teach what is lawful or not?
Jesus was doing the works of his father. Which works were a testimony of who he was.
Was Jesus pointing out the hypocrisy of the Judges? I think so yes.
He also pointed to his works being the works of God in him. Which the priests in the temple also did.
Joh 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.

Can we infer from this that it's wrong to leave sheep in pits on the Sabbath? This then demands us to unpack what sheep are.

IMO, it is sad to reduce these things to Jesus just being another Jew, debating Jewish law. Never even thinking about his works were the very works of God himself.

Joh 15:24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.

 

[DamianWarS]

Is that all Jesus was doing? Coming to teach what is lawful or not?

I'm using Christ's words but I get your point, he is not merely debating law and being clever, he is showing us the desire of God which is to do good and that we may break the Sabbath rest to do good.

 

[ralliann]

I'm using Christ's words but I get your point, he is not merely debating law and being clever, he is showing us the desire of God which is to do good and that we may break the Sabbath rest to do good.

The works of God. It is about his person and work being unique in the new covenant Gospel. Some are now just turning him into a Jewish Rabbi...................He was God in human flesh, working the works of God.

Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
Ac 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

 

[DamianWarS]

The works of God. It is about his person and work being unique in the new covenant Gospel. Some are now just turning him into a Jewish Rabbi...................He was God in human flesh, working the works of God.

Joh 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
Ac 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

Sure, but I'm not sure what unique point you're trying to make here. Again I was using Christ words saying "doing good is lawful" is this not true? you may dispute the language but your argument is with Christ not me.

 

[AbbaLove]

Finally someone who gets it. This of course begs the question did Jesus intend the spiritual meaning as well?

To say that Jesus did not intend "the spiritual meaning" would be to question His Devine Purpose ...

“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me” (John 6:38)​

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As the Messiah, He fully understood His atoning mission and the will of His Father. He testified:​

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“My Father sent me that I might be lifted up upon the cross … , that I might draw all men unto me. …​