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Is it possible to keep the 10 commandments?

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If one could keep the 10 Commandments they wouldn't need Jesus.

Jesus' commandments are not the 10 Commandments. Jesus fulfilled the Law, which the 10 Commandments are part of. For Christians we seek to obey Jesus' Commandments.

John 13: 34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.
John 15:
12 "This is My commandment, that you love one another, just as I have loved you.
17 "This I command you, that you love one another.

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

The Redeemer is the literal living Word of the Most High God.

HIS commandments are the Father's commandments, because He is acting according to the will of His Father.
 
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Who said anything about throwing all the Commandments out just because the 4th Commandments is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant (Colossians 2:16-17).

References for principles of 9 of the 10 Commandments are reiterated under the New Covenant, yet the command to keep the Sabbath day is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me. - Acts 14:15
2. You shall make no idols. - 1 John 5:21
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. - James 5:12
4. Keep the Sabbath day holy. - Not binding on the Church - Colossians 2:16-17
5. Honor your father and your mother. - Ephesians 6:1-2
6. You shall not murder. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 John 3:15
7. You shall not commit adultery. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
8. You shall not steal. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 4:28
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. - Romans 13:9-10; Colossians 3:9-10
10. You shall not covet. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 5:3

More exhaustive list:

Matthew 2:2; 2:8; 2:11; 4:9; 4:10; 14:33; 15:9; 28:9; 28:17, Mark 7:7, Luke 4:7; 4:8; 24:52, John 4:20,21,22,23,24; 9:38; 12:20, Acts 7:43; 8:27; 16:14; 17:23; 18:7; 18:13; 19:27; 24:11, Romans 1:25; 12:1, 1 Corinthians 14:25, Philippians 3:3, Colossians 2:18, Hebrews 1:6; 9:1; 9:6; 10:2; 11:21, Revelation 4:10; 5:14; 7:11; 9:20; 11:1; 11:16; 14:7; 15:4; 19:4; 19:10; 22:8; 22:9

Acts 15:20,29, Romans 1:25, 1 Corinthians 6:9; Chapter 8; 10:7,14; 12:2, 2 Corinthians 6:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:9, Galatians 5:20, Ephesians 5:5, Colossians 3:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Revelation 2:14, 20; 9:20; 21:8; 22:15

Matthew 12:36, Ephesians 5:4, Romans 2:24, Revelation 16:9

Matthew 15:5, Matthew 19:19, Mark 7:10; 10:19, Luke 18:20, Ephesians 6:2

Matthew 5:21; 19:18, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20, Romans 1:29; 13:9, James 2:11

Matthew 5:27,28,32; 19:9,18, Mark 10:11,19, Luke 16:18; 18:20, Romans 13:9, James 2:11, 2 Peter 2:14

Matthew 19:18, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20, Romans 2:21; 13:9, Ephesians 4:28

Matthew 15:9; 19:18, Mark 10:19, Luke 18:20

Mark 7:22, Luke 12:15, Romans 1:29; 7:7; 13:9, Ephesians 5:3, Colossians 3:5, Hebrews 13:5, 2 Peter 2:14

Who said the Sabbath is no longer binding under any condition? Man, or the Most High God?
 
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Who said the Sabbath is no longer binding under any condition? Man, or the Most High God?
The Most High God (Colossians 2:16-17). Now can you show me in Scripture UNDER THE NEW COVENANT where the body of Christ is commanded to keep the Sabbath day holy?
 
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The Most High God (Colossians 2:16-17). Now can you show me in Scripture UNDER THE NEW COVENANT where the body of Christ is commanded to keep the Sabbath day holy?

That was Paul who said that.

Where did the Most High God Himself say that the Sabbath is null, or void? In other words, where did the Most High God ever say we could disobey Him - that His laws were conditional?
 
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The Most High God (Colossians 2:16-17). Now can you show me in Scripture UNDER THE NEW COVENANT where the body of Christ is commanded to keep the Sabbath day holy?

The Word of God, and The Most High God never said that the commandment was NOT to be followed. Men have said that, but can men destroy the spirit?

God did not renege on His law requirements for those that want to be His child. Salvation is through the Redeemer His Son, but we still have an obligation to be good children and be OBEDIENT.
 
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The Word of God, and The Most High God never said that the commandment was NOT to be followed. Men have said that, but can men destroy the spirit?
Colossians 2:16-17 is crystal clear to me.

God did not renege on His law requirements for those that want to be His child. Salvation is through the Redeemer His Son, but we still have an obligation to be good children and be OBEDIENT.
How are we not being good children and not being obedient by giving heed to 9 of the 10 Commandments which are reiterated under the New Covenant?

*Yet the command to keep the Sabbath day is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me. - Acts 14:15
2. You shall make no idols. - 1 John 5:21
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. - James 5:12
4. Keep the Sabbath day holy. - Not binding on the Church - Colossians 2:16-17
5. Honor your father and your mother. - Ephesians 6:1-2
6. You shall not murder. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 John 3:15
7. You shall not commit adultery. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
8. You shall not steal. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 4:28
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. - Romans 13:9-10; Colossians 3:9-10
10. You shall not covet. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 5:3

That was Paul who said that.
What Paul said is inspired by God, so God said it.

Where did the Most High God Himself say that the Sabbath is null, or void?
Again, in Colossians 2:16, we read - Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or new moon or a Sabbath day -- 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

It sounds to me like you are still hanging on to the old covenant.

"He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant — not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills...the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone...the ministry that condemns" (2 Corinthians 3:6-9).

The law on our heart and mind is the love of the Spirit, not the law of the letter. This is why Paul tells us that the new covenant is a covenant of the Spirit, and not of the letter.

In other words, where did the Most High God ever say we could disobey Him - that His laws were conditional?
That is a straw man argument. :rolleyes:
 
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The Word of God, and The Most High God never said that the commandment was NOT to be followed. Men have said that, but can men destroy the spirit?

God did not renege on His law requirements for those that want to be His child. Salvation is through the Redeemer His Son, but we still have an obligation to be good children and be OBEDIENT.
If we are OBEDIENT to the Spirit then our conduct in our own life renders the written law superfluos.

For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8)

The written Law is good because it convicts those who are in the flesh of wrong doing, but for those of us who have the Spirit (And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.), there is a better way, which is in fact the only way.
 
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Colossians 2:16-17 is crystal clear to me.

God did not renege on His law requirements for those that want to be His child. Salvation is through the Redeemer His Son, but we still have an obligation to be good children and be OBEDIENT.

How are we not being good children and not being obedient by giving heed to 9 of the 10 Commandments which are reiterated under the New Covenant?

*Yet the command to keep the Sabbath day is not binding on Christians under the New Covenant.

1. You shall have no other gods before Me. - Acts 14:15
2. You shall make no idols. - 1 John 5:21
3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain. - James 5:12
4. Keep the Sabbath day holy. - Not binding on the Church - Colossians 2:16-17
5. Honor your father and your mother. - Ephesians 6:1-2
6. You shall not murder. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 John 3:15
7. You shall not commit adultery. - Romans 13:9-10; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
8. You shall not steal. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 4:28
9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor. - Romans 13:9-10; Colossians 3:9-10
10. You shall not covet. - Romans 13:9-10; Ephesians 5:3

What Paul said is inspired by God, so God said it.

Again, in Colossians 2:16, we read - Therefore, no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or new moon or a Sabbath day -- 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

It sounds to me like you are still hanging on to the old covenant.

"He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant — not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills...the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone...the ministry that condemns" (2 Corinthians 3:6-9).

The law on our heart and mind is the love of the Spirit, not the law of the letter. This is why Paul tells us that the new covenant is a covenant of the Spirit, and not of the letter.

That is a straw man argument. :rolleyes:

If Paul contradicts the Most High God - who said He doesn't change, and His Word said that not one iota of His Law will pass until Heaven and Earth go away - then Paul is a liar.

The Most High God never said we could disobey His commandments. He wrote the Law on our hearts because it was condition of the New Contract/Covenant He made with us - that we wouldn't need to be dependent on law written on stone, an ink to show us right from wrong. We know right from wrong.

There was never a separation from the Law of God, and the Word of God. If you can show me one place where the Most High God, or [the Word of] God actually said we could stop being obedient to the law, then I am all ears.
 
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The Redeemer is the literal living Word of the Most High God.

HIS commandments are the Father's commandments, because He is acting according to the will of His Father.
I understand what you mean but Jesus Drew the distinction between his Father's commandment and his commandments. Jesus fulfilled his Father's commandments and gave the Church a new commandment. That new commandment did come from his Father.
 
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I understand what you mean but Jesus Drew the distinction between his Father's commandment and his commandments. Jesus fulfilled his Father's commandments and gave the Church a new commandment. That new commandment did come from his Father.

The Word of God had the authority only afforded by God the Father.

God the Father wouldn't send His Son to contradict His words He set up and gave to His people. The Redeemer only spoke and acted in accordance and unity with the Most High God - that is part of what qualifies Him to sit where He sits. The Most High God has never given us authority or permission to sin against His statues set up previously, or as He gives it to us.
 
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The Word of God had the authority only afforded by God the Father.
I never said anything less.
God the Father wouldn't send His Son to contradict His words He set up and gave to His people.
His people, the Jews. The Mosaic Law was given to the Jews, only. Abraham preceded that covenant and through Abraham came righteous through faith, not the law. Jesus fulfilled the demands of the Law and his followers are judged by faith.
 
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I never said anything less.

His people, the Jews. The Mosaic Law was given to the Jews, only. Abraham preceded that covenant and through Abraham came righteous through faith, not the law. Jesus fulfilled the demands of the Law and his followers are judged by faith.

Fulfill doesn't mean "done away with." He fulfilled all of the Law because He was able to execute it perfectly.

Even Christ said that those who do the will of His Father are His brother and sister. And, the will of the Father is love and obedience - like any other parent expects of their child.

The "Mosaic Law" was not from Moses - Moses didn't write the law, nor did he have authority to found it. The Most High God gave Moses the Law - but that was just because they were so spiritually derelict that they needed written words to tell the right from wrong.

God never reneged on obedience demands of us, or His Law. There is not one place where He says we can stop being obedient to Him.
 
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Is it possible or not to keep the 10 commandments?

If it's not possible to keep the commandments, why do Jesus and also Paul say we are to keep the commandments?

John 14:15
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."

John 14:21
He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”

John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

Matthew 5:19
Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 19:17
And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God.

1 Timothy 6
13 I charge you in the presence of God, who gives life to all things, and of Christ Jesus, who testified the good confession before Pontius Pilate, 14 that you keep the commandment without stain or reproach until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ,
No. I am not under the law because the law has done its work in me by leading me to faith in Jesus Christ.
"So those who have faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith. All who rely on works of the Law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” And it is clear that no one is justified before God by the Law, because, “The righteous will live by faith.” Galatians 3:9-11
If someone wants to live under a curse, they have not just 10 Commandments to try and live by, but all 613 Commandments. And, even if they obeyed them all, they would still not be righteous in God's eyes because, "if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law (Galatians 3:21)." I choose to rest in the finished work of Jesus Christ, not in the unfinished work of my flesh.
 
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It is not possible to keep the commandments in such a way as to be worthy of heaven. Salvation is a gift, not a reward for good behavior.

It is possible to keep the commandments in such a way that a person appears righteous, a conventional "good person", but that does not mean they truly are righteous before God. We are all sinners and we all sin.

The Law is not a fix-it manual to life. The law is a diagnosis of the human condition. The Fixer is Jesus Christ, and we receive him through faith.
 
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Matthew 5:21-22 is part of the same passage which says Matthew 5:27-28
that's not the 10 commandments, Jesus says "the law says this way... but I say this way" . There is a contrast here, the way of the law (implicit in the "you have heard it said" reference) and the way of Christ.
 
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Many people would rather it says this,
"And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those who have chosen me, but raise them up at the last day." John 6:39

Our predestination is intimately a part of our salvation however.
Romans 8, in the YLT version uses fore-appoint for predestine.

29 because whom He did foreknow, He also did fore-appoint, conformed to the image of His Son, that he might be first-born among many brethren;

30 and whom He did fore-appoint, these also He did call; and whom He did call, these also He declared righteous; and whom He declared righteous, these also He did glorify.

Romans 8 in the amplified version,

29 For those whom He foreknew [of whom He was aware and loved beforehand], He also destined from the beginning [foreordaining them] to be molded into the image of His Son [and share inwardly His likeness], that He might become the firstborn among many brethren.

30 And those whom He thus foreordained, He also called; and those whom He called, He also justified (acquitted, made righteous, putting them into right standing with Himself). And those whom He justified, He also glorified [raising them to a heavenly dignity and condition or state of being].


Ephesians 1 in the YLT
3 Blessed [is] the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who did bless us in every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ,

4 according as He did choose us in him before the foundation of the world, for our being holy and unblemished before Him, in love,

5 having foreordained us to the adoption of sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

6 to the praise of the glory of His grace, in which He did make us accepted in the beloved,

And in the amplified version,
Ephesians 1
3 May blessing (praise, laudation, and eulogy) be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah) Who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual (given by the Holy Spirit) blessing in the heavenly realm!

4 Even as [in His love] He chose us [actually picked us out for Himself as His own] in Christ before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy (consecrated and set apart for Him) and blameless in His sight, even above reproach, before Him in love.

5 For He foreordained us (destined us, planned in love for us) to be adopted (revealed) as His own children through Jesus Christ, in accordance with the purpose of His will [because it pleased Him and was His kind intent]—

more wrested Scriptures!
 
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that's not the 10 commandments, Jesus says "the law says this way... but I say this way" . There is a contrast here, the way of the law (implicit in the "you have heard it said" reference) and the way of Christ.

It's Christ clarifying how deep the commandments go, so they are not just about appearance but about what is in the heart.
 
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It's Christ clarifying how deep the commandments go, so they are not just about appearance but about what is in the heart.
I believe Jesus is speaking to the spirit of the law in contrast to the letter of the law. The OP's agenda is ambiguous, so I commented on the letter of the law which is implicit in the title of the OP.
 
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