Is it possible to keep the 10 commandments?

[TheBibleIsTruth]

It's not my responsibility to disprove your claim. It's incumbent of you to prove it. (dat's how dat works)

do you believe the the Bible teaches that Jesus' Death was for every sinner, the entire human race, even those who will end up in hell?

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

Why be longsuffering towards those He know will never repent and believe?
Jesus gives us the answer in the parable of the wheat and the tares.
Matthew 13
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. 26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn.” ’ ”

Christ sows the good seed, those who are born of God, the ones He plants in His field the world.
The tares are sons of the devil, so the unsaved who all of them follow Satan.

The Parable of the Tares Explained
36 Then Jesus sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”

37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels. 40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

it might help you if you took off your Calvinistic specs, so that you can clearly see what the Bible actually teaches!

 

[GodsGrace101]

I notice you side-stepped John 6:44. Perhaps that's not part of the whole Bible that you want to speak.

See Jeremiah 31:3

Also verse 45 states that every man that has learned of the Father will come to Jesus.
See Isaiah 54:13
God will teach all. Also Jeremiah 31:34

How do we learn of the Father?
From the beginning of time He has revealed Himself to all.
Some chose Him, and some didn't.
Romans 1:19-20

John 6:44 The Father draws all men to Him. Just as Jesus does.
Romans 1:19-20
John 4:14
John 11:25-26
John 12:32

Perhaps you'd like to answer to these?

 

[sdowney717]

I Peter 1, tells use we are begotten again according to His mercy, that is His choice for us.
And if needs be, we suffer in this evil world for the purpose of demonstrating to principalities, powers, every creature the genuineness of our faith which is much more precious than gold, which will result in praise honor and glory at the revelation of Christ, Christ does not want that damaged, if He were to order the uprooting of the tares, it could change the fruit produced by the wheat.

A Heavenly Inheritance
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been [c]grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not [d]seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

I Peter 1, tells use we are begotten again according to His mercy, that is His choice for us.
And if needs be, we suffer in this evil world for the purpose of demonstrating to principalities, powers, every creature the genuineness of our faith which is much more precious than gold, which will result in praise honor and glory at the revelation of Christ, Christ does not want that damaged, if He were to order the uprooting of the tares, it could change the fruit produced by the wheat.

A Heavenly Inheritance
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been [c]grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not [d]seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.

do you believe the the Bible teaches that Jesus' Death was for every sinner, the entire human race, even those who will end up in hell?

 

[GodsGrace101]

I speak as a non Calvinist. I am of the conviction from the Bible, that it is impossible for any sinner to simply "choose" God. A person cannot decide on day, "I will accept Jesus today",in and of themselves. This I believe to be a spiritual impossibility. Romans chapter one says that God has from the beginning of time, "revealed" Himself in many ways, as it says in Hebrews 1:1. Yet, we know that the majority of the human race will not be saved?

The above is correct.
God makes the first move. HE draws us to Him, by US, I mean the entire human race. Even the aboriginies, who had no contact with the outside world, believed in Spirits. There were always those who drew close to God and those who refuse to for many different reasons.

The N.T. clearly teaches that God and Jesus both draw men to themselves through the working of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will convict all of their sins. Some don't want to be convicted. Some believe in science more than in God. Some try to reason it out intellectually and can accept and others cannot.

The N.T. also clearly teaches that God would desire all men to be saved -- but He does have conditions. Even Jesus said to count the cost before joining Him.
Luke 14:25-34

I agree with your post.

 

[GodsGrace101]

Um, yeah...I agreed with scripture that was quoted. I don't think eisegesis means what you think it means.

Well Phil 1:21 looks like you're the only one on this thread that knows what anything means.

How's about exegeting those verses I spend time on for you...
and also just this ONE...

John 3:16 I said you could go to 18 if you wish.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

The above is correct.
God makes the first move. HE draws us to Him, by US, I mean the entire human race. Even the aboriginies, who had no contact with the outside world, believed in Spirits. There were always those who drew close to God and those who refuse to for many different reasons.

The N.T. clearly teaches that God and Jesus both draw men to themselves through the working of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will convict all of their sins. Some don't want to be convicted. Some believe in science more than in God. Some try to reason it out intellectually and can accept and others cannot.

The N.T. also clearly teaches that God would desire all men to be saved -- but He does have conditions. Even Jesus said to count the cost before joining Him.
Luke 14:25-34

I agree with your post.

can a sinner be saved without first "repenting" of their personal sins, and "believing" in Jesus Christ, as their Saviour and Lord

 

[GodsGrace101]

Yes, it is written TO us but not ABOUT a true Christian. We need to test ourselves to see it we ARE a true Christian.

I see. I thought you had said that it wasn't speaking to Christians...
So there are also TRUE Christians?
Maybe.
Off topic...
And anyway, who do I think I am to make that determination???

 

[GodsGrace101]

There is a difference between TO and ABOUT

Whatever...

 

[sdowney717]

I did not side step anything, because I believe that a sinner must first be drawn by God, as Jesus says in John 16, where He speaks of the Holy Spirit "convicting the world of sin...because they do not believe in Me". I have no issue with John 6:44, but do with the abuse of Romans 9-11 by some.

That convicting the world of sin that the Holy Spirit does, is not leading to the salvation of the unbelieving world.
Notice in what is said in verse 9?
v 9, Christ saves only believers, not believers. Convict the world of their sin because they do not believe, is a judgement against them, they are guilty and will pay the price.

v10, Christ is leaving this world to go back to the Father, and the world will see Him no more, that is condemnation for the world as Christ has been given all authority and Power.

v11 of judgement, well those who believe will not come under judgement as they have passed from death to life. His departing to be at the right hand of the Father means His next appearing to the world will be one of a fierce and terrible judgement of doom and destruction for the world.

John 16:7-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.

8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;

10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;

11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

That convicting the world of sin that the Holy Spirit does, is not leading to the salvation of the unbelieving world.
Notice in what is said in verse 9?
v 9, Christ saves only believers, not believers. Convict the world of their sin because they do not believe, is a judgement against them, they are guilty and will pay the price.

v10, Christ is leaving this world to go back to the Father, and the world will see Him no more, that is condemnation for the world as Christ has been given all authority and Power.

v11 of judgement, well those who believe will not come under judgement as they have passed from death to life. His departing to be at the right hand of the Father means His next appearing to the world will be one of a fierce and terrible judgement of doom and destruction for the world.

John 16:7-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.

8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me;

10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;

11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.

how about #285?

 

[sdowney717]

can a sinner be saved without first "repenting" of their personal sins, and "believing" in Jesus Christ, as their Saviour and Lord

Repenting is not mentioned as something an unbeliever does, only a believer repents, and they do this after they believe in Christ.

In truth, specifically it says unbelievers do not repent of their evil deeds.

In Romans 10, there is nothing mentioned about repentance that makes the person saved...
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach):

9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.

10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”

12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him.

13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

 

[GodsGrace101]

can a sinner be saved without first "repenting" of their personal sins, and "believing" in Jesus Christ, as their Saviour and Lord

How can one be saved without repenting?
What does repent mean?

It means that when we are born we are lost and walking on a path toward the evil one. We are doomed.

We hear about God and the evil one and decide that we'd like to follow God and end up in heaven and also have a better life here on earth.

So we REPENT...which means to turn around, to change direction...and we go the other way. Toward God. So now we are on a path that leads to God.

This must naturally mean that we're sorry for our sins and will TRY to sin "no more", as Jesus said to the adulteress woman.
(Go and sin no more).

So, while on our path and we sin --- fall ---, we get up and ask forgiveness and keep going toward God. John made provision for this in 1 John 1.

And, yes, we must also BELIEVE in Jesus as our SAVIOR, and as our LORD. Lord of our lives. If we believe in Him, we also trust Him and learn from Him and follow Him. We are His disciples.

Both aspects must be present.
Do you agree?

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

How can one be saved without repenting?
What does repent mean?

It means that when we are born we are lost and walking on a path toward the evil one. We are doomed.

We hear about God and the evil one and decide that we'd like to follow God and end up in heaven and also have a better life here on earth.

So we REPENT...which means to turn around, to change direction...and we go the other way. Toward God. So now we are on a path that leads to God.

This must naturally mean that we're sorry for our sins and will TRY to sin "no more", as Jesus said to the adulteress woman.
(Go and sin no more).

So, while on our path and we sin --- fall ---, we get up and ask forgiveness and keep going toward God. John made provision for this in 1 John 1.

And, yes, we must also BELIEVE in Jesus as our SAVIOR, and as our LORD. Lord of our lives. If we believe in Him, we also trust Him and learn from Him and follow Him. We are His disciples.

Both aspects must be present.
Do you agree?

This troubled me..."Even the aboriginies, who had no contact with the outside world, believed in Spirits"

 

[GodsGrace101]

This troubled me..."Even the aboriginies, who had no contact with the outside world, believed in Spirits"

Why?
Romans says clearly that God has always revealed Himself.
Not in the same way to all people.
Didn't the American Indian believe in the Great Spirit?
Satan revealed himself too. It was up to the person to accept the spirit he wished to serve.

 

[Yarddog]

You said the law is a curse.
I can't spend time responding if you don't know what you said.

Hmmm, shouldn't you know who you had that conversation with before you accuse someone? The only person that I found that you had a discussion with involving the term "curse", was Gracebro. As for what scripture says:
Galatians 3:
10 For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM
11 Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, "THE RIGHTEOUS MAN SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."
12 However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM."
13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us-for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO HANGS ON A TREE "-
14 in order that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

What this is saying is that if a person puts themselves under the Law, which the 10 Commandments are part of, and you break any of those laws then you are under a curse for your failure. God's children are free from the Law though and we fall under that which was established with Abraham.

As Abraham had no commandments, God's children only have what Jesus put on us and that is to love. When we love, the law has been fulfilled.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

Why?
Romans says clearly that God has always revealed Himself.
Not in the same way to all people.
Didn't the American Indian believe in the Great Spirit?
Satan revealed himself too. It was up to the person to accept the spirit he wished to serve.

The "spirit" for the American Indians is NOT the Holy Spirit of the Bible. Your reasoning is rather strange!

 

[GodsGrace101]

The "spirit" for the American Indians is NOT the Holy Spirit of the Bible. Your reasoning is rather strange!

There's only ONE God.
The Great Spirit is God.
You could take it or leave it.

 

[TheBibleIsTruth]

There's only ONE God.
The Great Spirit is God.
You could take it or leave it.

let me get this right. Are you saying, that the so called "great spirit" of the American Indians, is the same as the God of the Holy Bible?