The huge issue is none of these Sunday sources we see are advocating a true Saturday Sabbath
yes they do from Eden to the cross. Read the OP details and you will see.
Point 7 is their "edit/change" the Law of God argument - and then "retain all Ten Commandments" -- something you reject. And the OP says I reject it as well because there can be no "edit".
I differ with them on 1 of their 7 - you differ with all 7.
So no way to blame it all on SDAs.
which means using them only confuses things
On the contrary it clearly points out that the anti-Sabbath arguments on this area of the board conflict not only with seventh day Sabbath keeping Christians - they also fly in the face of the majority of pro-Sunday scholarship on this subject.
"inconvenient" maybe - but not "confusing things".
I contend that Christians who do things half wrong (half right too) are not an example for "doing right" on any account, but instead an example of doing wrong.
Your opposition to the majority of the pro-sunday Christians scholarship "noted".
My point is that you cannot blame all that on SDAs.
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You can't have it both ways either they support the Sabbath or they don't
1. Read the OP.
2. They claim they support the Sabbath commandment and that it still applies to the saints today.
3. I state in the OP that differ with them on point 7.
on this thread - in this discussion - details matter.
and if they do support it then you should not have any problem with them keeping it on Sunday the way they do.
Why?
What evidence do you have that I should not object to their point 7 -- when you in fact object to ALL 7 of their points?
How is that logical on your part?
Now you say some of them are partially right
Indeed the fact that they are wrong on point 7 does not mean they are wrong on points 1-6 where I strongly agree.
The fact that the Catholics are wrong on purgatory does not mean they are also wrong about the fall of man, the trinity or that sin exists or that there will be judgment in the future.
This is not a laughable argument it is an incredibly obvious point.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day do you agree with one of those too as the correct time?
You just shot your own argument in the foot.
Thanks.
My argument isn't anti-Sabbath at all,
You said God's Law was abolished. You argue against the Sabbath Commandment in almost every post.
the pro-Grace crowd doesn't condemn folks for their (voluntary) keeping of the Saturday Sabbath
The pro-sunday groups listed in the OP would consider themselves in the "pro-grace crowd" (for the most part) and would still argue that it is a sin to break the Sabbath Commandment as it is binding on all mankind (in their words) not just on the saints.... from Eden to this very day.
My opposition is to your blatant abuse of the writings of those people mentioned
That is a false accusation - and you provide no evidence at all in support of it.
Merely repeating a false accusation is not a funny kind of proof making it true.
You need actual facts.
and your turning a blind eye to any arguments that logically refute them plus your playing both sides of the fence here in that in one instance you claim these people support a Saturday Sabbath
1. They say they support Saturday Sabbath for all mankind from Eden to the cross. I have the actual data, evidence, proof of that fact.
2. If you have a shred of evidence to the contrary - provide it for us.
Your accusations need something like actual fact.
then in another instance you group them in with those who do not support a Saturday Sabbath
They themselves argue for point 7 in the OP which even you oppose.
How can you the blame me for opposing them on that same point?
Rhetoric only goes so far -- you need some actual fact in your accusation that holds up.
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having said all of that - - at least you are talking about the subject of the OP -- and I consider it a step forward.
in Christ,
Bob
you are funny
I just recently nearly got banned over an argument with one of your chums...who will remain nameless.
Here is where I reported in the Customer Care thingie:
BOTH SIDES are full of cow patties. And I'm here to let you BOTH know it!!!!
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