Iran's Duplicity

[Daniel1136]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102011203#


DebkaFile, September 18. 2014

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, in an exclusive interview with NBC News' Ann Curry, denounced ISIS for its savagery but also branded the U.S.-led coalition against the terror group as "ridiculous." Speaking from the presidential palace in Tehran ahead of his visit to the United Nations, Rouhani questioned President Obama's decision to go after ISIS with airstrikes.

"Are Americans afraid of giving casualties on the ground in Iraq? Are they afraid of their soldiers being killed in the fight they claim is against terrorism?" Rouhani said.

(staff edit)

My comment:

Iran is the core of the ancient Persian Empire in he Middle East

This Muslim state will join with Satan's beast to attack Israel during the coming 70th week decreed for the nation [Ezekiel 38: 39]

 

[Aijalon]

Note that the Persians reestablished Israel under Cyrus, and the Persians were the ultimate target of the Greek Empire, to destroy those who had resettled Israel.

Though they be Muslim now, they are far less violent and extreem than the Sunni dominated Muslim nations. The Sunni nations are all financially supported by the West, but the Shiite ones are persecuted by the West (and Israel).

 

[Daniel1136]

Agreed

ISIL may very well be the beginning and setup for Daniel's little horn and king of the north in the region of northwestern Mesopotamia

If so, the Muslim populations of Iran will confederate with the little horn against Israel [Ezekiel 38; 39] and the west eventually [Revelation 17:16-18; 18:1-21] .... a Muslim is a Muslim bottom line .... common goals, destroy Israel and western capitalism

 

[Interplanner]

The normal reading of the 70th week is that it follows the 69th. There was an excellent argument about this a couple weeks back with the Messianic teacher. He did great. The week of desolation came as decreed and happened as Peter said because they rejected him mission, Acts 3. He said they would be disinherited.

The events of the 70th week anyway, have nothing to do with Ezek 38,39. Why illustrate a passage that makes perfect sense by something from a completely different author? Bizarre.

How does any of this news fixation get them or neighbors or anyone the Gospel? There has to be more delight in spreading the Gospel of justification than "knowing it all ahead of time" which is only going to puff people up. It is not the spirit of God working.

 

[kingdomwitness]

If I may ask Dear Interplanner, seeing the war in Iraq and Syria going on, doesn't it bother you that it might lead to something you don't expect?

 

[Interplanner]

Yes KingdomWitness,
I just discussed this next door in
http://www.christianforums.com/t7843168/

The problem is the egregious neglect of Eph 2-3 is probably going to cause a major conflict. It will be Judaizers vs anti-Judaizers.

Where are Christians on that? NEITHER SIDE.

Inherent in both positions is the dangerous merging of state and church, or race and religion, or descendancy and religion. NT Christian is against such merging and is why the United State constitution is the most brilliant Christian document for society.

2P2P says you have to make exception for Abraham's descendants, and that is a crock. There is only one Gospel, and it ranges back to the time of all the prophets, Rom 1. 2P2P is irreconcilable with the NT, but a high % of Christians think 2P2P is in the Bible.

 

[Aijalon]

The US constitution was good for what it was good for. It was dedicated to the ending the religious oppression and silencing of political dissent by the King of England.

But the Constitution is not inherently praiseworthy, it was built on premises for man centered secular government, where "god" can be anything we want him to be.

Thomas Jefferson was no saint and God didn't write the Bill of Rights, he wrote some pretty restrictive moral laws though. Some would argue that they infringe on the right to happiness.

 

[Danoh]

Yes KingdomWitness,
I just discussed this next door in
http://www.christianforums.com/t7843168/

The problem is the egregious neglect of Eph 2-3 is probably going to cause a major conflict. It will be Judaizers vs anti-Judaizers.

Where are Christians on that? NEITHER SIDE.

Inherent in both positions is the dangerous merging of state and church, or race and religion, or descendancy and religion. NT Christian is against such merging and is why the United State constitution is the most brilliant Christian document for society.

2P2P says you have to make exception for Abraham's descendants, and that is a crock. There is only one Gospel, and it ranges back to the time of all the prophets, Rom 1. 2P2P is irreconcilable with the NT, but a high % of Christians think 2P2P is in the Bible.

The only exception that - at least - MID-ACTS Dispensationalism makes for ANY physical seed of Abraham is that they are lost unless they trust Christ ALONE.

"After this... mystery" is over, and God once more deals with Abraham's descendents on their Covenant basis, well, Christ will also be the issue.

Get your facts straight - not all Dispensationslists agree with the 1948 understanding. If you did not know that, which I doubt, since I've pointed this out to you more than once, before others on here those times also, well, you know it once more.