I don't know that the Bible gives us much assurance one way or the other about the salavation of infant babies who die. Anybody know?
I agree...Wisdom Seeker said:If salvation is for those who can make the decision fully knowing what the decision is and what the consequences are, then they are of the age of accountablility.
Babies are not accountable for thier choices or their actions.
Uh, you are right. When I say original sin I mean only that our flesh is fallen. We are in our true form without the flesh in the presence of God. As I said God does not judge children for the sins of their parents (Solomon from King David for example). Thanx for making me clarify what I was trying to say.armothe said:Born with original sin:
I think we use the word "inherit" and "born" improperly.
The majority of people believe sin is inherited like one inherits blue eyes or brown hair from their parents. I believe this is an incorrect definition.
Sin is inherited the way good manners or social skills are inherited - by learning them.
You see, there are only two methods of human development:
Genetic - mostly physical (getting taller) which in turn effects some emotional/mental attributes (strong will)(intelligence).
Learned Behavior - emotional/mental (right vs wrong).
Which of the two does sin fall into?
Is there a SIN gene which is passed on from parents to child? If so, why didn't Christ genetically inherit sin from Mary?
Rather, I believe sin is a learned behavior. This being the case, it is impossible for a newborn child to have already learned/committed sin. Thus a newborn child is without sin - being sinless.
Those being without sin are able to ascend to heaven if they die. Much like a person is able to do so when he/she has accepted Christ as their savior- who covers a persons sin so they appear blameless before God. Thus is able to enter into Heaven upon physical death.
Adam sinned. Cain learned what sin was from Adam. Cain's children learned what sin was from Cain. Cain's children then passed sin on to their children. And on, and on, and on. So indeed sin whas "inherited" from Adam. But we are not actually born with sin.
Those who think we are born with sin. Please tell me how this process works.
-A
Spiritual death is a result of sin.Blueberry Sponge said:If babies weren't sinners they couldn't die because death is solely the result of sin. Their very death proves that sin isn't just a "learned behavior" that they hadn't lived long enough to learn yet. The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies. Psalm 58:3
All we like sheep have gone astray. Not all we like sheep were born astray.Sin is inherited the way good manners or social skills are inherited - by learning them.