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Correction. Your flawed interpretation and use of Scripture says they have.Blueberry Sponge said:And yet Scripture says they have.
That's good to hear.armothe said:Otherwise, I'm finished going back and forth with you.
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I like your idea here, water_ripple. I think what you are getting at is that the only way to enter the kingdom of God is to rely on our "parent", Him being God.water_ripple said:People:
Suffer the little children unto Me
for unless you become like them the kingdom of God is not yours.
Maybe we should stop debating about wether a baby is sinful or not...Perhaps we should revert back to the time when we depend on our Parent for survival.
Because Jesus loves them and died for their sins, I love them and am commanded by God not to murder.Patristic said:Then why don't you go and kill Iraqi children
Therefore, you just get to pick and choose what commands contained in Scripture you are willing to follow. Instead of just avoiding the issue, who don't you just do what the Bible literally tells you to do? Remember, you are commanded by God not to murder, but God is obviously telling you dash infants upon the rocks, so he must have a good reason for doing so. God tells you not to murder in a general sense, but when he tells you to go and kill this specific group of children then you should listen to what He says.Because Jesus loves them and died for their sins, I love them and am commanded by God not to murder.]
Sponge, no one can speak as soon as they're born, so that part of the scripture, at least, is hyperbole.Blueberry Sponge said:And physical death.
Yes it should.
That's all of us. All have sinned.
David was making the point that the wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon
as they be born, speaking lies.
We are to believe that the wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon
as they be born, speaking lies.
Blueberry Sponge said:PseudAnon, not a single sin will enter into Heaven. Sin is "exceedingly sinful" (Romans 7:13). Your "just misled" sinners will spend eternity in the lake of fire because of their sins. Sin is not a minor offence, it's anything short of perfection.
Maybe you should have a glass of warm milk and take a little nappy.Patristic said:God is obviously telling you dash infants upon the rocks
That's an interesting view, but it relies too heavily on the idea of soul sleep which I believe does not have an overwhelming weight of evidence in it's favor. I actually read a similar theory in a Catholic book about Limbo. The idea was that unbaptized infants who die go to Limbo which is just another way of stating that they are oblivious and unaware of their existence and state. Yet, at the resurrection they will be brought back and will live on the new earth, but will never have access to heaven.Children or even infants that have died, are merely asleep in the grave. They are to be resurrected according to God's timetable and will be welcomed back by their parents or loved ones. They will be cared for as they grow and mature.
A testimony to God's wisdom, love, justice, and power.
No thank you, I had plenty of rest last night. Since this is the only response I can elicit from you, then it is obvious that a serious consideration and study of the texts in question is not possible. I won't consume any more of my valuable time attempting to reason with you, but will spend it discussing the issues with others.Maybe you should have a glass of warm milk and take a little nappy.
Actually, the Bible teaches otherwise. The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. Psalm 58:3 You see, they DO speak. Don't let those goo-goo's and ga-ga's fool you. They're not always truthful. God has warned us so that we'll be good parents.Plan 9 said:Sponge, no one can speak as soon as they're born
Blueberry Sponge said:Actually, the Bible teaches otherwise. The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. Psalm 58:3 You see, they DO speak. Don't let those goo-goo's and ga-ga's fool you. They're not always truthful. God has warned us so that we'll be good parents.
Blueberry Sponge said:PseudAnon, read your Bible. Wicked people are sinners and sinners are wicked people.
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