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In what states will recounts be requested?

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That is not a thing.

Or as a Democrat, you flippantly blew something off that concerns Trump. We are going to find a lot of that in the coming days.... where individuals will be blindsided by information they 'debunked' 'refuted' so on....
 
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Or as a Democrat, you flippantly blew something off that concerns Trump. We are going to find a lot of that in the coming days.... where individuals will be blindsided by information they 'debunked' 'refuted' so on....

Are you claiming that the Federal Government Unconstitutionally interfered in something the Constitution requires states to do -- choosing their method for selecting Electors for the Electoral College? What you are talking about is more typically called "ballot tampering."
 
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Are you claiming that the Federal Government Unconstitutionally interfered in something the Constitution requires states to do -- choosing their method for selecting Electors for the Electoral College? What you are talking about is more typically called "ballot tampering."

"Ballot tampering".... to imposes sanctions and security measures against foreign interference of the US electoral process back in 2018 is "Ballot tampering". Security measures were put into place to combat foreign interference, and their ability to produce counterfeit ballots. It is no one's fault but their own if others did not pay attention or listen.

Hey, look... it's all good. Even Satan thought he had won until three days latter.
 
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"Ballot tampering".... to imposes sanctions and security measures against foreign interference of the US electoral process back in 2018 is "Ballot tampering". Security measures were put into place to combat foreign interference, and their ability to produce counterfeit ballots. It is no one's fault but their own if others did not pay attention or listen.

Hey, look... it's all good. Even Satan thought he had won until three days latter.

So the Federal Government, without any type of Federal Law stating they will do it, give paper to states to create their ballots. Of course, there are different machines used by different states, and even different machines used in different counties in some states. Additionally, the money to pay for this specially treated paper is somehow found in the US Budget.

Next, despite the fact that all ballots are local, even down to the precinct, no one questions or publicly remarks on the fact they've been given paper, that comes from the Federal government (with no legal mandate) that they are required to use? Not only that, since the local officials obviously have to be told about the needing to use that paper, since they are told they have to use it, they somehow don't know that if the "forge ballots" that it would also need to be on that "special paper"?

I'm sorry, this doesn't really work.
 
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And yet a similar number of lawyers was used in the last elections. I can't seem to recall court cases about the last election, even though it was equally close -- with the difference between a Trump win and a Clinton win being a total of 70,000 votes. Nor do I recall "street fights" after the last election.

Already, it seems to have been a much more peaceful "transition" last time than this time -- and a winner hasn't even been declared this time.
And the liberals have only spent the last 4 years resisting and doing everything in their power to conduct a bloodless coup. They did not use the courts because they did not have a case but they did try every other thing that they could think up.
 
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So the Federal Government, without any type of Federal Law stating they will do it, give paper to states to create their ballots. Of course, there are different machines used by different states, and even different machines used in different counties in different states. Additionally, the money to pay for this specially treated paper is somehow found in the US Budget.

Next, despite the fact that all ballots are local, even down to the precinct, no one questions or publicly remarks on the fact they've been given paper, that comes from the Federal government (with no legal mandate) that they are required to use? Not only that, since the local officials obviously have to be told about the needing to use that paper, since they are told they have to use it, they somehow don't know that if the "forge ballots" that it would also need to be on that "special paper"?

I'm sorry, this doesn't really work.

Yes... they might be doing Kleenex's too.... maybe even paper towels.

Why bother? If you do not even understand the very premise of what I am stating, just sit back and enjoy the show. I am not doing all the footwork for you just to have an argument where you tell me I am wrong.
 
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Yes... they might be doing Kleenex's too.... maybe even paper towels.

Why bother? If you do not even understand the very premise of what I am stating, just sit back and enjoy the show. I am not doing all the footwork for you just to have an argument where you tell me I am wrong.

You mean the QAnon conspiracy theory you are pushing, that is a rehash of one from 2018. I'm curious, where were the arrests in 2018 when they allegedly did this same thing?
 
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I am so sick and tired of hearing about Q every single time one of you have nothing to stand on.....

'Hurry up... hit that report button... I have nothing to defend my argument with..... ban him before people find out...'

I do not follow Q

I didn't even know who he was until I kept getting falsely accused, and tried to find out what this Q thing even was.

This whole 'Q' thing has been weaponized to the point of silencing speech. How do people get the privileges to go around blaming people all the time like a medieval witch hunt; as if others have to prove themselves innocent?
 
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You mean the QAnon conspiracy theory you are pushing, that is a rehash of one from 2018. I'm curious, where were the arrests in 2018 when they allegedly did this same thing?

How do you even know that? I don't. Do you follow Q? And why are you constantly allowed to bring him up?
 
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I am so sick and tired of hearing about Q every single time one of you have nothing to stand on.....

'Hurry up... hit that report button... I have nothing to defend my argument with..... ban him before people find out...'

I do not follow Q

I didn't even know who he was until I kept getting falsely accused, and tried to find out what this Q thing even was.

I'm not claiming you got it from Q -- but it is a fact this is a theory that was first made by Q, and that was back for the 2018 election. I think you are getting your news from sources that follow Q and sometimes report on things they hear from him.

I know about it because I check up on this people say, I follow links and often do my own study -- particularly things that don't match up with things I've learned throughout my life. In this case, there is plenty of fact checking on this particular theory, in part because it was a major Q claim.

But the biggest thing with this theory, it just doesn't make sense. Too many people would need to know about it, for it to ever be effective. Again, people at the local level would have to know about this "special paper" that they are required to use for ballots. Once you do that, there is no advantage to having the "top secret" special paper -- if they are planning to commit fraud, they are just going to ensure they print up enough extra ballots using that paper.
 
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I'm not claiming you got it from Q -- but it is a fact this is a theory that was first made by Q, and that was back for the 2018 election. I think you are getting your news from sources that follow Q and sometimes report on things they hear from him.

So what? Maybe Alex Jones or even Joe Rogan talked about it before... I don't know... don't follow them.

The point being, this is a line of speech you are flaming to be 'dealt' with. That is all it is. You are flaming me. I have told you multiple times I do not follow Q and am not quoting his theories, yet it still seems advantageous of you to make the claim. Why is that? Why do you keep claiming some sort of conspiracy theory?

Why is it so important you libel me as a conspiracy theorist that you do it over, and over, and over......
 
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Acknowledging your experience in Q that I do not possess.... Is this doctrinal? As in ONLY 'Q' followers believe or discuss this cannon? Or is it a part of normal every day political discourse in America; having been discussed on many platforms by many people?

If it is the latter... then this is nothing more than an attempt to implicate me is some wrongful action, thusly shutting down what I might say.
 
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Acknowledging your experience in Q that I do not possess.... Is this doctrinal? As in ONLY 'Q' followers believe or discuss this cannon? Or is it a part of normal every day political discourse in America; having been discussed on many platforms by many people?

If it is the latter... then this is nothing more than an attempt to implicate me is some wrongful action, thusly shutting down what I might say.

I'm just saying, from what my research has shown me, where this idea of isotopes on ballots originated. I'm not trying to implicate you with anything -- again, merely what I've found. As to how far it has spread, I'm not sure and don't really care.

But let's try this. You claim to have this "top secret" knowledge of a sting being run by Homeland Security that no one is supposed to know about. Yet somehow, just the second day after the election and before the "trap" is sprung, you have knowledge of it. Doesn't that make you pause and make you question your sources? Is Homeland Security so badly run that they can't keep an operation like this secret before they've sprung the trap?
 
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But let's try this. You claim to have this "top secret" knowledge

This right here is the fallacy.... what you posted. As if this isn't in the news or has already been reported on. None of this is 'top secret' knowledge. It is refuted, debunked, mocked, and scorned knowledge that others have ignored. It would seem you are not even aware this was published, and I am left to assume, I am to provide you with links to 'prove' myself?
 
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This right here is the fallacy.... what you posted. As if this isn't in the news or has already been reported on. None of this is 'top secret' knowledge. It is refuted, debunked, mocked, and scorned knowledge that others have ignored. It would seem you are not even aware this was published, and I am left to assume, I am to provide you with links to 'prove' myself?

But that is just it, it doesn't do any good to stop voter fraud if it the "sting" is being published on the Internet. There are just so many issues with this conspiracy -- I listed several.

Of course, one of the biggest is how would the Federal Government check for the non-fraudulent ballots? First, states aren't going to let the Federal government -- regardless of DHS, FBI, Military, none of them, without a warrant. You aren't getting a warrant without solid evidence that a crime has been committed -- and losing an election, or losing a lead, is not evidence. Then, they'd have to go through and "scan" every single ballot, one by one -- likely have to do it by hand; and in a state like Michigan you are talking about millions of ballots.

This isn't even considering all the other issues of this conspiracy that just make it implausible.
 
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