In what states will recounts be requested?

[Gene2memE]

There's a particularly insane conspiracy theory floating around in the QAnon/Boogaloo bois sphere at the moment.

The basics of it are this:

• Someone anonymously "leaked" of a DHS "press release" that was picked up by the Associated Press' OneWire service.
• The press released was leaked as it was being suppressed by journalists.
  
• This "press release" claims that the DHS has found "sharp inaccuracies in the election in favor of Joe Biden" in a sting operation it conducted.
  
• Specifically that 80% of ballots have failed ballot integrity checks - a "watermark" - and that these ballots are overwhelmingly for Joe Biden, with 48% of them in Arizona and Nevada.

The problems with this are manyfold:

The PR doesn't appear on the DHS website - where all its other PRs are published.

The explanation is that this PR is a "lead off" for journalists using the AP OneWire service which is "a service that connects agencies and reporters from across the planet together" and "can only be accessed by content providers and sharing partners in the news networks in the United States and abroad".

AP does have a 'OneWire' service, but its not a content aggregation service for journalists its a financial services recruiting platform. AP uses NewsWires for PR aggregation. In reality, there is no such service.

The DHS "press release" mentions a watermark. But only in passing and clearly indicates it was meant to be addressed earlier in the "press release". It assumes the reader is familiar with the concept - not the sort of thing you do in a press release.

The language of the "press release" is clearly from someone that has never written a PR before. You don't start a PR about election fraud investigations with the phrase "in a stunning term of events", for instance. Or claim "With confusion in the election results as it is, the amount of fraud identifiers found in this sting is staggering."

For those interested in longer reading: [Ongoing Discussion] United States Election Fraud Concerns Are Raised – Community Comment Forum

 

[LostMarbels]

There's a particularly insane conspiracy theory floating around in the QAnon/Boogaloo bois sphere at the moment.

Seems to be a common theme to blame all things on some kid in his basement.... a hoax, even what is attested to as a conspiracy theory.

I've got to be honest... makes me wonder why so many Democrats are focused on this Q person. Why are they so desperately smearing it like they focus on Trump?

It is supposed to be a conspiracy theory. Bigfoot. Aliens among us. Loch Ness monster. 9/11. Why all the attention?

 

[LostMarbels]

Your conspiracies will be thrown out of court. Your guy is losing, time to accept that fact.

Nope. But thanks for playing nonetheless...

 

[Skreeper]

Nope. But thanks for playing nonetheless...

 

[LostMarbels]

But that is just it, it doesn't do any good to stop voter fraud if it the "sting" is being published on the Internet. There are just so many issues with this conspiracy -- I listed several.

Of course, one of the biggest is how would the Federal Government check for the non-fraudulent ballots? First, states aren't going to let the Federal government -- regardless of DHS, FBI, Military, none of them, without a warrant. You aren't getting a warrant without solid evidence that a crime has been committed -- and losing an election, or losing a lead, is not evidence. Then, they'd have to go through and "scan" every single ballot, one by one -- likely have to do it by hand; and in a state like Michigan you are talking about millions of ballots.

This isn't even considering all the other issues of this conspiracy that just make it implausible.

The thing you are not seeming to understand is none of this is contingent upon your reasoning, understanding, permission or acceptance of what has been presented. It is fully independent and will continue right on its path without such content or understanding from your part. It isn't going to stop just because some believe it cannot be done... nor for this or that reason. This is going to go to multiple courts until we block the illegal votes. It's not going to stop until we have stopped the illegal voting fraud.

 

[Goonie]

Georgia.

 

[LostMarbels]

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That's the ruse... try and demoralize Trump from continuing to fight for states he actually won. Once he takes this to court, Biden will not win.

 

[LostMarbels]

Georgia.

What about it?

 

[SimplyMe]

The thing you are not seeming to understand is none of this is contingent upon your reasoning, understanding, permission or acceptance of what has been presented. It is fully independent and will continue right on its path without such content or understanding from your part. It isn't going to stop just because some believe it cannot be done... nor for this or that reason. This is going to go to multiple courts until we block the illegal votes. It's not going to stop until we have stopped the illegal voting fraud.

Fine, where is the evidence of illegal votes?

 

[Goonie]

What about it?

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The OP, on topic.

 

[Goonie]

Fine, where is the evidence of illegal votes?

Your forgetting voting democrat is by definition illegal.

 

[LostMarbels]

Then, they'd have to go through and "scan" every single ballot, one by one -- likely have to do it by hand; and in a state like Michigan you are talking about millions of ballots.

It would seem no one cares if this continues for the perceivable future... count them. Any of them cast after the polls closed go into the trash. Illegally cast ballots as pertaining to law... go into the trash. Dead people, illegal immigrants, felons... go into the trash.

 

[SimplyMe]

Your forgetting voting democrat is by definition illegal.

From what I see, voting Democrat is fine. Just that the counting of those votes for Democrats -- at least more than Republican votes -- is illegal.

 

[LostMarbels]

Fine, where is the evidence of illegal votes?

That is why you take it to court.

 

[SimplyMe]

It would seem no one cares if this continues for the perceivable future... count them. Any of them cast after the polls closed go into the trash. Illegal cast ballots as pertaining to law... go into the trash. Dead people, illegal immigrants, felons... go into the trash.

Great, I agree. At the same time, there is no evidence that any late ballots (per the law) are being counted.

 

[Goonie]

That is why you take it to court.

No, you have to have evidence to take to court. Courts don not possess evidence.

So where is the evidence.

 

[LostMarbels]

Great, I agree. At the same time, there is no evidence that any late ballots (per the law) are being counted.

Again... this is why you take it to court and find out if the counted ballots are legal.

 

[SimplyMe]

That is why you take it to court.

This would be false -- you go to court when you have evidence. In fact, technically you go to court when you can prove the fraud. First, when you have some evidence but not "proof" you seek warrants to find "proof." You might also convene a Grand Jury to get a warrant, as well as indict if you have enough evidence for trial.

You do not go to court, or even convene a Grand Jury, when you have no evidence.

 

[SimplyMe]

Again... this is why you take it to court and find out if the counted ballots are legal.

Again, false. Courts require evidence -- they aren't there to help you "find evidence."

 

[LostMarbels]

No, you have to have evidence to take to court. Courts don not possess evidence.

So where is the evidence.

This would be false -- you go to court when you have evidence. In fact, technically you go to court when you can prove the fraud. First, when you have some evidence but not "proof" you seek warrants to find "proof." You might also convene a Grand Jury to get a warrant, as well as indict if you have enough evidence for trial.

You do not go to court, or even convene a Grand Jury, when you have no evidence.

There is evidence the election laws are being broken, and ample evidence to call for a recount with scrutiny being placed on the ballots cast.