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"I'm here to kill Mexicans!"
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so what's the issue here? he did the crime and is going to do the time. this guy isn't going to get away with anything.
a feeble attempt at a deflection.
a feeble attempt at a deflection.
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Why yes, yes I am. And actually I do happen to know it's an adjective we already use for "hate" crimes with special attendant circumstances.
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Right, it's also used for other crimes like battery and robbery. By your logic then, we shouldn't need "aggravated battery" when "battery" will do just fine. Same thing for other crimes.
The thing is we do have them because as a society we've decided the commission of some crimes can by worse if there are certain motivations or actions involved in the commission.
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No it's not. That's just silly. The person who walked into my house and stole my laptop, game system and a bunch of other stuff, didn't do it because he hates me. He has no idea who I am. At most, he was indifferent to me, and probably really loves drugs.
A hate crime is not a hate crime simply because it perpetrated against a minority group. In fact, there's nothing about hate crime laws that indicate it must be perpetrated against
a minority. A hate crime is a crime committed against a person that is wholly or largely committed because they belong to the wrong group of a defined category, i.e. the wrong race (note: this can apply to white people as much to black people). When you start looking at those sorts of crimes as more than just a simple crime against a single person and start looking at as it additionally being a threat made to a larger community, then it starts to make sense why such crimes should have the additional qualifier.
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More specifically - what's the process for buying one from a private seller?
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If that person hated you because of the group you belong to would the crime have been worse? Would you have been more harmed by the person if he hated you and did the exact same thing? If we have decided, and this is the basis for the whole of idea of hate crimes, that even though the actual harm is the same , the hating of a group alone is legally punishable by an amount of incarceration added to a crime once it is considered a hate crime. The next logical step then would be to incarcerate people for hating groups regardless of any other action as we have already decided that hating groups is worthy, in and of itself, of jail time.
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I imagine it would be the same as the process anywhere else in the world. Give the private seller money and get the gun in return. Are you going to claim that doesn't happen outside of the US? Now, just as elsewhere, there are laws regulating that transaction in the US but when two people decide to do a thing that they believe only they will ever be aware of, they often ignore the laws with impunity.
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I don't know the US laws on that . Never having purchased a gun I have no need for that information. But as the situation I described can be carried out anywhere, I do not see what difference any law would make. If the gun purchased as I described were used lawfully, no harm would have been done. If it were used unlawfully, the fact that a second law was broken would not seem to matter all that much. I would prefer to try to concentrate on trying to find a way to prevent something bad from happening rather than concentrating on having another law to charge a miscreant with the breaking of.
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You're welcome. May I suggest that you could probably google "US gun regulations" and get the answer you are looking for much faster than waiting for some legal expert go to show up here.
Perhaps this will be helpful?
https://www.atf.gov/file/58686/download
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I already read that one, but since I have been informed that my book knowledge isn't sufficient without having actually gone to a gun show, I'd like to hear about the proceedings from someone who actually went through them.
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