If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

[BobRyan]

Even C.H. Spurgeon accepts the Bible details differentiating the moral law of God from the civil and ceremonial laws.


Baptist Confession of Faith Section 19

Section 19:

C.H. Spurgeon's edition of the "Baptist Confession of Faith"
-- CH Spurgeon

The Perpetuity of the Law of God

Very great mistakes have been made about the law. Not long ago there were those about us who affirmed that the law is utterly abrogated and abolished, and they openly taught that believers were not bound to make the moral law the rule of their lives. What would have been sin in other men they counted to be no sin in themselves. From such Antinomianism as that may God deliver us. We are not under the law as the method of salvation, but we delight to see the law in the hand of Christ, and desire to obey the Lord in all things. Others have been met with who have taught that Jesus mitigated and softened down the law, and they have in effect said that the perfect law of God was too hard for imperfect beings, and therefore God has given us a milder and easier rule. These tread dangerously upon the verge of terrible error, although we believe that they are little aware of it.​

Section 19 of the "Baptist Confession of Faith" .​

Section 19​

. The Law of God ​

• God gave to Adam a law of universal obedience which was written in his heart, and He gave him very specific instruction about not eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. By this Adam and all his descendants were bound to personal, total, exact, and perpetual obedience, being promised life upon the fulfilling of the law, and threatened with death upon the breach of it. At the same time Adam was endued with power and ability to keep it.

• The same law that was first written in the heart of man continued to be a perfect rule of righteousness after the Fall, and was delivered by God upon Mount Sinai in the TEN COMMANDMENTS, and written in two tables, the first four containing our duty towards God, and the other six, our duty to man.

• Besides this law, commonly called the moral law, God was pleased do give the people of Israel ceremonial laws containing several typical ordinances. These ordinances were partly about their worship, and in them Christ was prefigured along with His attributes and qualities, His actions, His sufferings and His benefits. These ordinances also gave instructions about different moral duties. All of these ceremonial laws were appointed only until the time of reformation, when Jesus Christ the true Messiah and the only lawgiver, Who was furnished with power from the Father for this end, cancelled them and took them away. ​

• To the people of Israel He also gave sundry judicial laws which expired when they ceased to be a nation. These are not binding on anyone now by virtue of their being part of the laws of that nation, but their general equity continue to be applicable in modern times.

The moral law ever binds to obedience everyone, justified people as well as others, and not only out of regard for the matter contained in it, but also out of respect for the authority of God the Creator, Who gave the law. Nor does Christ in the Gospel dissolve this law in any way, but He considerably strengthens our obligation to obey it ​

Baptist Confession of Faith

Section 22.


Point 7

7. As it is the law of nature that in general a proportion of time, by God's appointment, should be set apart for the worship of God, so He has given in His Word a positive, moral and perpetual commandment, binding upon all men, in all ages to this effect. He has particularly appointed one day in seven for a Sabbath to be kept holy for Him. From the beginning of the world to the resurrection of Christ this was the last day of the week, and from the resurrection of Christ it was changed to the first day of the week and called the Lord's Day. This is to be continued until the end of the world as the Christian Sabbath, the observation of the last day of the week having been abolished.​

 

[Soyeong]

We have righteousness and freedom in Christ, and you suggest we should have our eyes on the law? The law is an all or nothing type of deal, if you can't keep it perfectly then its only use is to condemn you.

1 Corinthians 15:56
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Let me ask you, do you feel good about yourself observing the law? Are you observing the law to please God? If you are, you are actually condemning yourself before him. The ONLY way to please God is faith in Jesus Christ: Your observance of the law can not and does not please God!

Galatians 3:24-25
So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,

There are two closely related concepts: being declared righteous and practicing/training in righteousness. Being declared righteous is about having a right standing before God while practicing/training in righteous is about the conduct that those are righteous are called by faith to have. To declared that someone is a Firefighter is to say that they are someone who fights fires and in the same way, to declare that someone is righteous is to say that they are someone who practices/trains in righteousness.

1 John 3:10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.

The law is God's instructions for how to practice righteousness and that is what obedient children of God are called by faith to do. Paul said that OT Scripture is profitable for training in righteousness, which again refers to the law. Christ is our righteousness insofar he has paid the penalty for our sins to give us right standing before God and in that His Spirit dwelling in us causes us to by faith do what is righteous.

The law is only an all or nothing deal if you are trying to become justified through your own efforts, but that was never the reason why it was given, and is in fact a perversion of its purpose. If Moses and any of the Israelites were saved, then they were saved by grace through faith before the law was given to them, as Abraham was (Romans 4:1-8), so it's purpose was about how those who are saved should behave. God didn't require the Israelites obey law before he saved them out of Egypt, but rather he saved them first, then gave them the law.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

1 John 2:4-6 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: 6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

1 John 3:4-6 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

John 15:5 I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.

Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

There is indeed no condemnation for those who are in Messiah, but those who are in Messiah are those who by faith practice righteousness, refrain from practicing sin or being lawless, keep his commands, walk as he walked, bear much good fruit, and do good works, all of which is in accordance with God's holy, righteous, and good law.

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan said: ↑
A simple question for those here who are opposed to God's Commandments.

what "Commandments" what "LAW" is this where the 5th commandment is the FIRST one with a promise??

Eph 6:2
2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:

In what well-known unit of law - is there such an arrangement as is stated in Eph 6 - by Paul???

We wait to find out why this question cannot be answered by those opposed to God's Commandments.

 

[BABerean2]

Section 19:

C.H. Spurgeon's edition of the "Baptist Confession of Faith"
-- CH Spurgeon

Was Adam under the 10 Commandments given at Mount Sinai?

According to Chapter 19 of the Westminster Confession of Faith, he was.

If Adam explained the 10 Commandments to Eve, what would her response have been?

Who would she have committed adultery with?

What would she have stolen?

Was she to rest from her works on the Sabbath day?

Sorry Bob, but Pastor Charles Spurgeon and the Westminster Confession of Faith are both wrong on this one and you promote their error in an effort to make your doctrine work.

They have incorrectly applied the Sinai covenant to Adam.

Adam was not promised eternal life if he kept the 10 commandments.

He had it and lost it because of sin.

 

[BobRyan]

Was Adam under the 10 Commandments given at Mount Sinai?

Moses is writing for his readers at Sinai -

Moses tells his readers at Sinai this about Abraham

Gen 26:5 "5 because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My Laws.”

BEFORE the Ten Commandments are written on tablets of stone in Ex 31:18 -- God says "Tomorrow IS the Sabbath" Ex 16:23
this is BEFORE even the Ex 20 event where the TEN Commandments are thundered from Sinai.

These are examples of the LAW of God at a time when those who oppose the Commandments of God - say they could not exist!!

Because the MORAL Law of God was binding on mankind in all ages according to Romans 3:19-20
"ALL the WORLD"

Rom 3
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Not the ceremonial law - but rather the moral law of God - as Paul points out in 1Cor 7:19
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Adam could not kill Eve and be sin free, nor could he lie or steal or covet or could he worship false gods and be sinless.

The "Baptist Confession of Faith" AND the "Westminster Confession of Faith" and D.L. Moody and Matthew Henry and Dies Domini and ... (all of them pro-sunday sources at that) -- are right about this "Bible detail"

God said to Cain "sin is crouching at your door" but no TEN Commandment tables of stone were there - Cain knew it was sin to hate and to kill.


in Christ,

Bob

 

[Soyeong]

The Jewish converts of Paul's day were all trying to get the gentiles to observe the law, and what was Paul's response? NO! The entire third chapter of Galatians is dedicated to this issue. If you have problems in your conscious and cannot be satisfied in Jesus without the law, then that's your problem, but that doesn't mean we all need the law too. I am righteous in Christ alone-- I don't need the law! And when the time comes for a decision to be made about whether to do something sinful or not, the Holy Spirit and my love for Christ will lead me-- not the law.

Ezekiel And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.

The law gives us knowledge of sin (Romans 3:20), without the law we wouldn't even know what sin is (Romans 7:7), sin is defined as lawlessness (1 John 3:4), and the role of the Spirit is to cause us to obey the law, so if you think the Spirit will ever lead you to sin in disobedience to the law, then you are mistaken.

Sin is the problem, not the law that identifies sin, and the problem with the Old Covenant wasn't the law, but that they failed to obey it. Instructions for how to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct can't make us holy, righteous, and good because our sinful flesh prevented us from obeying it (Romans 8:3). To solve the problem, God could either lower His righteous standard so that it was no big deal if we sinned or he could cause us to meet the righteous requirement of the law by causing us to become obedient to it, and God chose to do the latter (Romans 8:4). He accomplished this by sending His Son to pay the penalty for our sins and to free us from our slavery to sin, and by sending His Spirit to lead us in obedience to the law (Romans 8:3). It is those who have a carnal mind who do not submit to God's law (Romans 8:7).

"Judaizers" was a term first coined and used by the heretic Marcion. It did not refer to those who were trying to get Gentiles to obey God's law, nor did Paul mean that when he used the word, but rather means "to adopt Jewish customs and rights, one who observes the ritual law of the Jews". It has to with someone who was trying to make Gentiles live as a Jew and become a Jew, and having him keep all of the customs of the Jewish people. They want the perspective person to live exactly as they do, keeping God's law in the same manner as they do in order to be saved. It has nothing to do with God's law except for the fact that Jewish customs were bound up in decisions made about God's law, also known as their yoke of the Torah.

The issue in Galatians 3 is that they were saved by faith, but that they had begun listening to those who were saying that they needed to become Jews and keep the law according to their traditions in order to be saved. Not only did they not have to keep their traditions, but the purpose of the law was never about what we need to do in order to become saved. However, saying that you don't need to keep the law in order to become justified is worlds apart from saying that you don't need to keep the law. That's like someone telling you that you're doing something in the wrong way and concluding from that that there isn't a right way to do it.

 

[AlexDTX]

This discussion comes from a carnal mind. Arguing over keeping the commandments is a works mentality. We live by grace through faith in what Jesus accomplished for all. Jesus was not saying keeping his commandments was a means to love, rather loving him was the means to keeping the commandments. It refers to our motivation of heart. No one can keep the commandments. That is the point of the Mosaic Covenant. Only Jesus fulfilled the commandments. We are saved by His works, not ours. The gift of God is the very life of God given through the new birth to anyone who believes in who and what Jesus did. To make a difference between the Father and Jesus is a mistake. Jesus said if you see me you see the Father. The two are one. Loving one another is not a new commandment according to John and Jesus.

 

[BobRyan]

The Jewish converts of Paul's day were all trying to get the gentiles to observe the law, and what was Paul's response? NO! The entire third chapter of Galatians is dedicated to this issue. If you have problems in your conscious and cannot be satisfied in Jesus without the law, then that's your problem, but that doesn't mean we all need the law too. I am righteous in Christ alone-- I don't need the law! And when the time comes for a decision to be made about whether to do something sinful or not, the Holy Spirit and my love for Christ will lead me-- not the law.

Paul gives sworn testimony under oath as to what his teaching is regarding the Law of God
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"the saints KEEP the Commandments of God AND their faith in Jesus" Rev 14:12
"what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of God" 1Cor 7:19
"do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the LAW of God" Rom 3:31
"shall we sin because we are not under Law but under grace? God forbid" Rom 6
New Covenant "I will write My LAW on their mind and on their heart" Heb 8:6-10
"Sin IS transgression of THE Law" 1 James 3:4
"these things I write to you that you SIN NOT" 1 John 2:1

1 John 2
4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

1 John 5:1-3
Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and KEEP His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.

"love Me and KEEP My Commandments" Ex 20:6
"If you Love Me KEEP My Commandments" John 14:15

James 4
11 Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it. 12 There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?

James 2
8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well. 9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not commit murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty.

 

[BobRyan]

This discussion comes from a carnal mind. Arguing over keeping the commandments is a works mentality. We live by grace through faith in what Jesus accomplished for all. Jesus was not saying keeping his commandments was a means to love, rather loving him was the means to keeping the commandments. It refers to our motivation of heart. No one can keep the commandments. That is the point of the Mosaic Covenant. Only Jesus fulfilled the commandments. We are saved by His works, not ours. The gift of God is the very life of God given through the new birth to anyone who believes in who and what Jesus did. To make a difference between the Father and Jesus is a mistake. Jesus said if you see me you see the Father. The two are one. Loving one another is not a new commandment according to John and Jesus.

New Covenant "I will write My LAW on their mind and on their heart" Jer 31:31-33, Heb 8:6-10

1 John 2
4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

1 John 5:1-3
Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and whoever loves the Father loves the child born of Him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and KEEP His commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments; and His commandments are not burdensome.

"love Me and KEEP My Commandments" Ex 20:6
"If you Love Me KEEP My Commandments" John 14:15

This is not an argument - it is simply embracing what the Word of God says on the subject.

God does not tell the lost - those who do not love God - to keep His Commandments. Rather they are simply under the condemnation of Rom 3:19-20 and must accept the Gospel, the new birth etc. For as Romans 8:4-9 says - the lost do not submit to the Law of God "neither indeed CAN they"

 

[Soyeong]

Heifer, of course we need to understand what the law is and what it teaches, otherwise we know would not know we are sinners. I am simply saying that once one has Christ, they don't need the law as a way of life. The OP is arguing that Christians need to keep the law (ten commandments is part of the law, it's all or nothing people) in order to truly love Christ. I argue that faith in Jesus and the consequential new nature he gives us are all we need, and that a mixing of both law and faith perverts the gospel of God's gracious salvation.

The primary goal of the law is to get us to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct. Realizing that we are sinners who don't have such a conduct and are in need of a savior is just an initial step toward that goal. Our salvation is from sin, so we are saved both from the penalty of our disobedience to the law and from our ongoing day to day disobedience to it. All of God's laws are either about how to love God or how to love our neighbor, hence why Jesus said that all of the laws hang on those two commands, so they are God's instructions for how He wants us to demonstrate our love for Him and for our neighbor. Paul said that we are new creations in Christ for the purpose of doing good works and that the law is profitable for equipping us to do every good work, so we are saved for the purpose of becoming obedient to the law, as we go through the process of sanctification of being made to be more like Christ in his perfect obedience to God's holy, righteous, and good law. Christ is the goal of the law and when he who began a good work in us carries it to completion on the day of Christ Jesus we will be made to be in perfect accordance with God's law.

 

[Gavriel Abir]

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

Doesn't this text show that if you have love for your neighbour you will keep all of the commandments of God that show love for your neighbor? So trying to separate the commandments of God and the commandments of Jesus is silly because it all boils down to love.

 

[Gavriel Abir]

The 1st 4 commandments of the 10 show us how to LOVE YHWH, The next 6 show us how to LOVE our neighbor. This is the compass to which we know how to show our love to YHWH and our neighbors

 

[Soyeong]

This discussion comes from a carnal mind. Arguing over keeping the commandments is a works mentality. We live by grace through faith in what Jesus accomplished for all. Jesus was not saying keeping his commandments was a means to love, rather loving him was the means to keeping the commandments. It refers to our motivation of heart. No one can keep the commandments. That is the point of the Mosaic Covenant. Only Jesus fulfilled the commandments. We are saved by His works, not ours. The gift of God is the very life of God given through the new birth to anyone who believes in who and what Jesus did. To make a difference between the Father and Jesus is a mistake. Jesus said if you see me you see the Father. The two are one. Loving one another is not a new commandment according to John and Jesus.

Romans 8:7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.

Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

John 7:16 So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me.

Indeed, this discussion comes from a carnal mind, and it is a carnal mind that does not submit to God's law. Everyone since Moses who has loved their neighbor as themselves has fulfilled the law. Every Sabbath in a synagogue a rabbi would take a Torah scroll to Moses' seat and fulfill the law by interpreting and explaining how it should be understood. Jesus fulfilled the law six times in Matthew 5, so fulfilling the law was not a once and for all thing that Jesus did. We are indeed saved by His works, not ours, but the point of us doing good works in accordance with the law was never to become saved by doing them, but rather it has always been how we are to demonstrate our love and faith. Indeed, it is a mistake to make a difference between Jesus and the Father and Jesus' teaching did not deviate from that of the Father. The point of the Mosaic Covenant was for us to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct, and point out that we have failed to have such a conduct is only relevant insofar as it points us to the one who by faith can save us from not having such as conduct.

 

[Gavriel Abir]

The primary goal of the law is to get us to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct. Realizing that we are sinners who don't have such a conduct and are in need of a savior is just an initial step toward that goal. Our salvation is from sin, so we are saved both from the penalty of our disobedience to the law and from our ongoing day to day disobedience to it. All of God's laws are either about how to love God or how to love our neighbor, hence why Jesus said that all of the laws hang on those two commands, so they are God's instructions for how He wants us to demonstrate our love for Him and for our neighbor. Paul said that we are new creations in Christ for the purpose of doing good works and that the law is profitable for equipping us to do every good work, so we are saved for the purpose of becoming obedient to the law, as we go through the process of sanctification of being made to be more like Christ in his perfect obedience to God's holy, righteous, and good law. Christ is the goal of the law and when he who began a good work in us carries it to completion on the day of Christ Jesus we will be made to be in perfect accordance with God's law.

When scripture states that HE is our example on how to walk in this life, Shouldn't we observe HIS footsteps?: Meaning we do as HE did? How do you think HE showed HIS love for YHWH and mankind? Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. I wonder where Fathers WORD came out of HIS mouth? Messiah lived by the WORD, that WORD is the Torah.

 

[Soyeong]

When scripture states that HE is our example on how to walk in this life, Shouldn't we observe HIS footsteps?: Meaning we do as HE did? How do you think HE showed HIS love for YHWH and mankind? Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. I wonder where Fathers WORD came out of HIS mouth? Messiah lived by the WORD, that WORD is the Torah.

It's interesting that many people ask "What Would Jesus Do?" but don't pause to consider that he would obey the Torah and teach others to do the same.

1 John 2:4-6 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: 6 whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Well here is the distinction the bible makes concerning the laws two classes of laws we are talking about.

* One set of laws is written by the hand of God on tablets of stone and placed in a place of high honour (inside the arc). The arc was essentially the symbolic throne of God as his earthly manifestation resided here. These laws also have the distinction of having been spoken directly to God's people so that all could hear him.

* The other set of laws was written by Moses as related by God. These laws were written on the equivalent of paper and kept on the outside of the arc. We are tolds these paper laws are kept there as a witness against us.

No kingdom exists without law. Law, in fact is the foundation of any kingdom, earthly or heavenly. Look at the commandments minus commandment number four. Do you really think any of these laws are no longer binding on us? Is idol worship OK now? Why do we want to throw away all the commandments just because we have issue with the fourth one?

So in other words only the 10 are "God's Laws" and the rest are just stuff Moses made up and God didn't care if they were kept or not?
As for your argument about the Sabbath it falls on deaf ears here I've yet to hear a convincing argument that doesn't outright IGNORE scripture in the OT that equates that the 10 commandments are sole property of Israel alone and ONLY theirs to keep.

 

[BABerean2]

The "Baptist Confession of Faith" AND the "Westminster Confession of Faith" and D.L. Moody and Matthew Henry and Dies Domini and ... (all of them pro-sunday sources at that) -- are right about this "Bible detail"

God said to Cain "sin is crouching at your door" but no TEN Commandment tables of stone were there - Cain knew it was sin to hate and to kill.

Murder was a sin in the garden after the fall no doubt. Before the fall, there is no evidence of any animal being killed.
Therefore, they would not have known what murder was.

There is no way that the 10 commandments were given to Adam before the fall.
Before sin came into the world, many of them would have made no sense to Adam or Eve.

Adam was told not to eat.

Abraham was commanded by God to circumcise his male offspring. Abraham kept that commandment as well as God's commandments to him to leave his home and go where God told him to go.

In order to get your Sabbath observance you have to force the Sinai covenant on Adam and Abraham, to make your doctrine work.



1Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.



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[Gavriel Abir]

Romans 8:7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.

Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

John 7:16 So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me.

Indeed, this discussion comes from a carnal mind, and it is a carnal mind that does not submit to God's law. Everyone since Moses who has loved their neighbor as themselves has fulfilled the law. Every Sabbath in a synagogue a rabbi would take a Torah scroll to Moses' seat and fulfill the law by interpreting and explaining how it should be understood. Jesus fulfilled the law six times in Matthew 5, so fulfilling the law was not a once and for all thing that Jesus did. We are indeed saved by His works, not ours, but the point of us doing good works in accordance with the law was never to become saved by doing them, but rather it has always been how we are to demonstrate our love and faith. Indeed, it is a mistake to make a difference between Jesus and the Father and Jesus' teaching did not deviate from that of the Father. The point of the Mosaic Covenant was for us to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct, and point out that we have failed to have such a conduct is only relevant insofar as it points us to the one who by faith can save us from not having such as conduct.

 

[Gavriel Abir]

Romans 8:7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.

Galatians 5:14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

John 7:16 So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me.

Indeed, this discussion comes from a carnal mind, and it is a carnal mind that does not submit to God's law. Everyone since Moses who has loved their neighbor as themselves has fulfilled the law. Every Sabbath in a synagogue a rabbi would take a Torah scroll to Moses' seat and fulfill the law by interpreting and explaining how it should be understood. Jesus fulfilled the law six times in Matthew 5, so fulfilling the law was not a once and for all thing that Jesus did. We are indeed saved by His works, not ours, but the point of us doing good works in accordance with the law was never to become saved by doing them, but rather it has always been how we are to demonstrate our love and faith. Indeed, it is a mistake to make a difference between Jesus and the Father and Jesus' teaching did not deviate from that of the Father. The point of the Mosaic Covenant was for us to have a holy, righteous, and good conduct, and point out that we have failed to have such a conduct is only relevant insofar as it points us to the one who by faith can save us from not having such as conduct.[/QUO

 

[Gavriel Abir]

What is sin according to scripture?