I believe that you believe exactly what you have said you believe.
You do not believe that God will complete the good work He started in believers.
please quote where I said that God will not complete the work He started in believers since I believe with all my heart that He will and does....it will be interesting to see the quote that I didn't say.
I did not say that the flesh cannot make choices to sin. I did say that the spiritual man cannot sin.
now now now, if you can reinvent what I said I can at least use your words to extrapolate something you didn't intend, now can't I?!
Here is the thing, according to the way you worded your post we absolutely can assume that you think that man is not capable of sinning after coming to the saving knowledge of Christ and that is totally contrary to what scripture teaches...so the real question here is are you going to talk to me and what I have said or are you going to insist on reinventing what I said and in that pretend to be righteous?
As to the spiritual man...yes and no depending on what you mean by the spiritual man. IOW's if by spiritual man you mean when we are living in the power of the indwelling HS...amen On the other hand, if by spiritual man you mean when we come to Christ then scripture and I both disagree with you and since I take scripture at it's word that leaves us at an impasse.
"As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it." Romans 7:17-20
yep...the very passage I presented that shows that even the genuine believer can and sometimes does sin...just like I said and you disagreed with.
So that our sins may be forgiven and we can regain lost fellowship with the Lord.
yep...that is how it works, just like the non OSAS people have been telling you all this time...lol funny how you disagree with what they say even though you agree with what they say...lol
This is rather basic stuff is it not?
What I am saying makes perfect sense to the Holy Spirit who first wrote it for us.
I'm ready anytime you are willing to believe the scriptures.
lol oh my what a load of funny accusations and non sense judgement...
You do not believe that believers have passed from death to life and will never again come into condemnation.
except that is the thing, I do believe that believers have passed from death to life and will not face condemnation...just like I said I believe but you claim I don't believe what I say I believe which is like the most ridiculous thing someone can claim about another person and still expect to be taken seriously.
As I said before the only real difference in the two beliefs is whether or not we can return the gift of salvation once accepting it. I say we can and if we do we will on judgment day be subject to the same judgment as the non believer because we rejected/ returned/denied/whatever word you want to put on it, the truth of Christ. See, it's all about whether or not we accept the truth of God...apparently you don't accept the truth of God because you can't even accept the truth of what I believe and have openly said.
Therefore you do not believe that God will complete the good work He begins in all believers as He has promised.
again false accusations and I encourage you to post the quote where I say that God will not finish the work He has begun...see the problem is that the work He will finish is even as you say here in the believer...what I am telling you is that not everyone who comes to Christ as a believer remains a believer therefore there is no contradiction in saying that we can "fall away" and that God will lfinish the work He has begun in all believers and I will NOT continue to tolerate your misrepresenting what I say and believe as if you are God.
It does no good for you to say that you believe God starts and finishes our faith and that He will complete the good work He started in us - if you believe that a saved person can be lost.
lol I don't believe a saved person is lost I have clearly stated that many times over. I do believe that a saved person can reject the salvation He has been given just like the unbeliever has the right to choose whether or not he believes in the first place...there is nothing about that that is lost...it's a willful act of defiance.
This isn't rocket surgery. You and I don't believe the same things about things related to salvation.
lol...you still refuse to listen to what is being said