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I hate when people take simple scripture and interpret it to mean what they want

Discussion in 'Christian Scriptures' started by SeventhFisherofMen, Aug 29, 2021.

  1. Pilgrims hope

    Pilgrims hope New Member

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    “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
    ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬


    Jesus actually carried out Gods Will in willingly laying his life down for the sins of all people . The Jews accused and condemned him and Gentiles carried it out by Gods Will and foreknowledge it was done .

    man is at fault because we’ve all sinned and Christ gave his life to save us all who will believe his true gospel


    “The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
    ‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬


    Gods will put Christ on the cross his Will to save his creation




    “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
    but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
    ‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬
     
  2. Pilgrims hope

    Pilgrims hope New Member

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    We’re all guilty of sin which is why he died
    “The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
    ‭‭Psalm‬ ‭14:2-3‬ ‭


    before israel was chosen God had created all men only after man fell
    Into sin we’re the children of Israel chosen by abrams promise but Abraham’s promise was not for Israel
    Only


    “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”
    ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭12:


    “And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the Lord, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son: That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.”
    ‭‭Genesis‬ ‭22:16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


    “And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.”
    ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    the blessing comes from here into all nations


    “And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
    ‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

    Which means this


    “For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
    ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:27-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬


    all Have sinned in his sight Jew and gentile so all can be saved jew and gentile by the same lord
     
  3. pescador

    pescador Newbie Supporter

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    Oh I see. Taking three verses out of context from Paul's longest epistle proves nothing. As the OP says, "I hate when people take simple scripture and interpret it to mean what they want".

    Here is a better three verse summary: Romans 7:4-6, " So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you could be joined to another, to the one who was raised from the dead, to bear fruit to God. For when we were in the flesh, the sinful desires, aroused by the law, were active in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. But now we have been released from the law, because we have died to what controlled us, so that we may serve in the new life of the Spirit and not under the old written code."
     
  4. klutedavid

    klutedavid Well-Known Member

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    Do you understand the quotation you just posted?

    When Paul wrote the letter to the Romans, pescador.

    Who were the people that were under the law?

    "But now we have been released from the law"

    Is Paul talking to the Jews or the Gentiles in that quotation (Romans 7:4-6)?
     
  5. pescador

    pescador Newbie Supporter

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    Paul's letter was written to the church in Rome, which was composed of both Jews and Gentiles, as well as to us (which is why it has been retained a Scripture for almost 2,000 years).

    Taking a few verses out of context from Paul's lengthy epistles to try to prove a fallacious point is the worst kind of exegesis.
     
  6. klutedavid

    klutedavid Well-Known Member

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    So your saying that the Gentiles were under the law, the same as the Jews?
     
  7. Beanieboy

    Beanieboy Senior Veteran

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  8. Michael Snow

    Michael Snow Member

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    Big problem is that most Christians do no have basics in place. For example your quote on "Forgive" is in the context of all that Jesus taught about forgiveness. "If your brother repents, forgive him..." Few disciples/learners these days. And that is more frustrating... Love…When Basics Become Heresies
     
  9. Michael Snow

    Michael Snow Member

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    Basics of Scriptural Interpretation, It does not depend on your opinion. Of Ponds and Pitfalls
     
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