Hunter Biden's laptop to be tossed into Republican investigation machine with hearing this week

[disciple Clint]

The Hunter Biden emails make me think it is ridiculous to claim Hunter got government jobs based on merit, he was to busy with hookers and crack to develop general skills to be a board member and he had not specifically useful experience. This is troubling

What is also troubling is that the government said the emails were Russian disinformation when they are not.

That being said the emails don't seem to actually prove any corrupt acts , And the source of the emails are unknown they could have been obtained by a hacker instead of coming from a laptop. The fact that the laptop came from crazy dishonest Rudy who held onto for months is a factor when judging media outlets for not running the story.

The emails were verified, the laptop has been verified as not having been tampered with, and the FBI had the laptop and the original hard drive long before Rudy got a copy and made it public. And yes it is very disturbing that the FBI no only sat on the laptop information but also promoted the lie that the information on it was Russian disinformation when they knew full well that it was no such thing.

 

[Ceallaigh]

The emails were verified, the laptop has been verified as not having been tampered with, and the FBI had the laptop and the original hard drive long before Rudy got a copy and made it public. And yes it is very disturbing that the FBI no only sat on the laptop information but also promoted the lie that the information on it was Russian disinformation when they knew full well that it was no such thing.

Yeah, but...

 

[perplexed]

the original hard drive

??? source ???

 

[USincognito]

Nice whataboutism there, but a supply chain for manufacture is hardly the same as tens of millions for influence.

You're conflating the tens of millions was donated to U Penn, with the $5 mil paid to "the Biden family".

If $5 mil to family members* gets you upset, you should be positively enraged at a sitting President receiving $5.4 million from China.

*I'm assuming that the Donald family being gifted a $1.9 BILLION loan by MbS is no big deal because it's not China.

 

[essentialsaltes]

The emails were verified,

Some emails have, yes.

the laptop has been verified as not having been tampered with,

When did this happen?

the FBI ... promoted the lie that the information on it was Russian disinformation

When did this happen?

 

[Aldebaran]

*I'm assuming that the Donald family being gifted a $1.9 BILLION loan by MbS is no big deal because it's not China.

That's just another whataboutism, which doesn't justify your first one.

 

[perplexed]

It is fairly telling that nobody gives an answer when they asked about what actual crimes the emails actually prove

A couple of points
The laptop has not been verified.
A copy of the hard drive was said to appear legitimate because of the dates but those can easily be faked

The letter by former government officials did have a disclaimer.
"We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case"

 

[Larniavc]

Joe Biden denied repeatedly he received any benefit from his son’s business deals. But Republicans questioned his truthfulness.

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings,” Biden said in 2019.

But Comer labeled the claim “false” because of documentation of meetings from Hunter Biden’s personal calendar and White House visitor records.

Joe Biden earlier denied receiving foreign payments during a 2020 presidential debate.

“I have not taken a penny from any foreign source at any point in my life,” Biden said.

Hunter Biden's laptop tossed into Republican investigation machine with hearing Wednesday

House Republicans question whether Hunter Biden peddles influence. But President Joe Biden has denied profiting from his son's deals.

www.yahoo.com

The story described 2015 emails indicating then-Vice President Joe Biden met with a high-ranking official at Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian energy company whose board employed Hunter Biden. The meeting would have come at a time when Biden was pressuring Ukraine to fire its prosecutor general, who was investigating the company.

But Biden’s campaign said, “No meeting, as alleged by the New York Post, ever took place.”

When Trump raised questions about the laptop at a presidential debate, Biden replied that it was Russian disinformation. The laptop’s legitimacy has since been confirmed by CBS News, but the contents remain under investigation.

Any day, now.

 

[disciple Clint]

??? source ???

for which well known fact that has now been acknowledged and covered by nearly all of media sources?

 

[disciple Clint]

Some emails have, yes.

When did this happen?

When did this happen?

Forensic analysis of Hunter Biden laptop by ex-FBI agent finds ‘no evidence’ of fake data - Washington Examiner

A forensic analysis reportedly determined the data found on the laptop believed to belong to Hunter Biden appears to be authentic.Cyber forensic experts from Maryman & Associates were commissioned to examine thousands of text messages, emails, and photos on the laptop's contents that were found...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

FBI Examining Hunter’s Laptop As Foreign Op, Contradicting Trump’s Intel Czar

DNI Ratcliffe said on Monday there was no intel to support Russia being behind Hunter Biden’s laptop contents. But investigators are still looking into it.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[perplexed]

for which well known fact that has now been acknowledged and covered by nearly all of media sources?

Nope

 

[perplexed]

Sorry folks, this program does not magically create an exact physical copy of a laptop

 

[USincognito]

You're conflating the tens of millions was donated to U Penn, with the $5 mil paid to "the Biden family".

If $5 mil to family members* gets you upset, you should be positively enraged at a sitting President receiving $5.4 million from China.

*I'm assuming that the Donald family being gifted a $1.9 BILLION loan by MbS is no big deal because it's not China.

That's just another whataboutism, which doesn't justify your first one.

A. You ignored my point about you confusing the money donated to the University of Pennsylvania with money paid to Biden family members and associates.
B. You ignored the fact that while $5 paid by China to people who aren't Joe Biden when he wasn't in office is the worst crime in the history of the Republic, but it's apparently o.k. for a sitting president to get paid that much himself by China.
C. I get that y'all wish we'd stop talking about Jared being gifted a $1.9 billion loan by MbS (which is perfectly o.k. with you guy)s because it distracts from the significantly smaller amount of money earned by the Bidens (which apparently is the worst crime in the history of the Republic).
D. I'm not KCfromNC.

Serious question - are ties to China by relatives of a president a sign that president must be investigated? Is that really a complaint we're supposed to take seriously?
If so : Ivanka Trump’s supply chains in China cloaked in secrecy
If not, can we move on to the actual reasons for the support of this "investigation", assuming there are any?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Forensic analysis of Hunter Biden laptop by ex-FBI agent finds ‘no evidence’ of fake data - Washington Examiner

A forensic analysis reportedly determined the data found on the laptop believed to belong to Hunter Biden appears to be authentic.Cyber forensic experts from Maryman & Associates were commissioned to examine thousands of text messages, emails, and photos on the laptop's contents that were found...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Also, I have no reason to believe the statement by Maryman & Associates is authoritative.

FBI Examining Hunter’s Laptop As Foreign Op, Contradicting Trump’s Intel Czar

DNI Ratcliffe said on Monday there was no intel to support Russia being behind Hunter Biden’s laptop contents. But investigators are still looking into it.

www.thedailybeast.com

"investigators are still looking into it." is not "investigators are asserting it".

 

[Say it aint so]

A. You ignored my point about you confusing the money donated to the University of Pennsylvania with money paid to Biden family members and associates.
B. You ignored the fact that while $5 paid by China to people who aren't Joe Biden when he wasn't in office is the worst crime in the history of the Republic, but it's apparently o.k. for a sitting president to get paid that much himself by China.
C. I get that y'all wish we'd stop talking about Jared being gifted a $1.9 billion loan by MbS (which is perfectly o.k. with you guy)s because it distracts from the significantly smaller amount of money earned by the Bidens (which apparently is the worst crime in the history of the Republic).
D. I'm not KCfromNC.

I am completely shocked that a country that sends a large number of their citizens here to study at prestigious schools donate money to said universities. The implication that this money went to Joe Biden is about as vapid as the Joe Biden laptop claims.

 

[disciple Clint]

"investigators are still looking into it." is not "investigators are asserting it".

However since they knew that it was not Russian disinformation they simply should have dismissed it rather than making a statement that infers that it might exist. They played along.

 

[USincognito]

However since they knew that it was not Russian disinformation they simply should have dismissed it rather than making a statement that infers that it might exist. They played along.

"They" is doing an awful lot of work in this sentence. Donald's political operative making a public statement is hardly the same as "they knew it was not Russian disinformation".

 

[disciple Clint]

they is the FBI read the thread

 

[USincognito]

The emails were verified,

Some emails on the hard drive have been verified as being actual emails rather than something created on a word document or .pdf.

https://wapo.st/3Nu03nf

The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey...

The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post.

the laptop has been verified as not having been tampered with,

That literally never happened. The chain of custody makes anything on the hard drive suspect. Again, some files seem not to have been modified since April 2019. That's not the same as verifying hard drive or it's content wasn't tampered with. That said, from the WaPo article above:

Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years.​

and the FBI had the laptop and the original hard drive long before Rudy got a copy and made it public.

Apparently that "long time" was about a month... assuming that John Isaac and Rudy are telling the truth. The real story is more likely that Rudy had the hard drive from his 2019 dirt finding mission in Ukraine.

And yes it is very disturbing that the FBI no only sat on the laptop information but also promoted the lie that the information on it was Russian disinformation when they knew full well that it was no such thing.

That the supposed laptop is Russian disinformation has NOT been shown to be a lie in any way shape or form.​

 

[perplexed]

the FBI read the thread

The FBI has looked at this thread, I suppose like we will all be continuing this conversation in a re education center