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Yes you did, you said that they were not originally written in Greek they were translated into Greek.
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No i didnt say that.
I said we have copies of copies of the Greek.
There are no original manuscripts of the Apostles letters.
In other words, there are no original Apostle's letters at all.
The GREEK isn't the original ,its the translation of the Original letters, into the Greek.
I teach Paul.
Paul isn't a Catholic, in case you didn't know it.
Jesus also isn't a Catholic.
Mary isn't a Catholic.
There are no Catholics in Heaven. There are no denominations in Heaven.
In Heaven, we will find God, Christ, the Host of Heaven ,and the Born Again.
Yes, he had some good input. I appreciated how he fleshed out the concept of faith more than some, including the inseparability of it from works, but most particularly perhaps that he identified it at one point as relationship with God.MacArthur is difficult to figure out. He's totally against both Eastern and Western Catholicism and teaches once saved always saved, but also pretty much spearheaded the current Protestant teaching of Lordship Salvation, which after reading a lot of what you've said, sounds an awful lot like Catholicism. Now Steve Gregg who also teaches Lordship Salvation, also teaches being saved comes with an obligation and you can fail to persevere and lose your salvation.
I'm sure you'll like this short as well.
If you dont come to understand that what Jesus spoke to the House of Israel, has to be "rightly divided" by the Light of the Cross, then you'll end up staying confused regarding why Paul told you to do this...
""" Be a follower of ME, as I follow Christ".
See, thats not a suggestion.....
Study that out.
Lets be honest and use common sense.
How many people on this forum, read Greek or Hebrew, fluently?
And you , just like Clare73, have confused reading the translation of a Greek Translator, in your greek commentary or bible that shows the greek words, as you reading it.
You're not reading it.
You are reading the translators translation.
So, its inane and immature to suggest that believers are to read greek, when 99.9% can't read it.
In any case, yes, I get tired of the misuse and overuse of the born-again term from those who claim 100% certainty of salvation. I believe that causes more confusion and is more harmful than any language I might've used. Folks just need to get real with themselves IMO.
I used to attend a Pentecostal church where people-sometimes pastors- often questioned if so and so was born again or sought to confirm if I was born again, or saved, or among the elect, or Spirit-filled, or…however you want to put it. And many of the congregation seemed to be vying for some kind of pecking order with the pastors, each seeking to prove to them and each other-and to themselves, maybe- that they were the real thing. And while I never took this super seriously it finally hit me how bogus the whole thing was-along with the Spirit-led “evidence” they demonstrated during services in their particular case.Could you elaborate on some that please?
Yes, he had some good input. I appreciated how he fleshed out the concept of faith more than some, including the inseparability of it from works, but most particularly perhaps that he identified it at one point as relationship with God.
It's the direct connection of faith, itself, with relationship, with union, rather than with, say, belief only, that helps us to better understand faith and its purpose. The problem is that there are differing ways that faith is understood out there, along with the doctrine of Sola Fide, and some are stifled or less comprehensive. Stating things rightly is always beneficial.-and the way he put it is rarely heard as I've seen it.I can't imagine not having a relationship where you're and talking to and praying to God on a regular basis. That's the least one can do and still say 'I'm a Christian'.
I used to attend a Pentecostal church where people-sometimes pastors- often questioned if so and so was born again or sought to confirm if I was born again, or saved, or among the elect, or Spirit-filled, or…however you want to put it. And many of the congregation seemed to be vying for some kind of pecking order with the pastors, each seeking to prove to them and each other-and to themselves, maybe- that they were the real thing. And while I never took this super seriously it finally hit me how bogus the whole thing was-along with the Spirit-led “evidence” they demonstrated during services in their particular case.
Anyway, Christianity involves hearing about and coming to know the true God, an incredibly awesome God, a God of love and mercy and patience and goodness and kindness and infinite trustworthiness. That’s what His Son came to do, to reveal and reconcile us with Him. And while some experience profound and dramatic conversions, doing an about-face in their life-style now especially if coming off a life steeped in serious sin, most of us simply believe, and strive for holiness and to know God and His will better in one way or another. And all of us will still struggle with sin either way.
So from our perspective Christianity is about “getting right” with God, then living that way- as His child, a new creation-the best we can with what He gives us, producing fruit as He wills. We’re set apart and yet our “set-apartness” isn’t perfect-we don’t necessarily behave as holy as we know we should. We haven’t yet given ourselves over totally to good; we don’t yet love God with our whole heart, soul, mind, and strength. And to boot we’re limited, as finite beings, in our understanding.
So there’s at least a question, as there should be whether we honestly voice it or not, as to whether we’re really or sufficiently “there”. But we know He’s infinitely good and trustworthy-and wants all to be saved. And that salvation, as Kallistos Ware characterized it, is most aptly described as a journey, than as an all at once completed event that we can have absolute perfect certitude about.
Lets be honest and use common sense.
How many people on this forum, read Greek or Hebrew, fluently?
And you , just like Clare73, have confused reading the translation of a Greek Translator, in your greek commentary or bible that shows the greek words, as you reading it.
You're not reading it.
You are reading the translators translation.
So, its inane and immature to suggest that believers are to read greek, when 99.9% can't read it.
Well, yeah, as I’ve been insisting. It’d be impossible to have any righteousness and practice it unless God gives that to us. Once He does so, however, we must practice it,
You have a habit of putting your own words into other people's mouths
Well, no-again. It's both, because faith, hope, and love are all gifts-and human choices, and they pretty well define man's righteousness with love the most important of them all. Our eyeballs are His as well, but in that case we have no choice but to have and use them-unless we decide to just keep them shut I guess.You can't practice God's Righteousness.
See, its God's and you are not Him.
Redeemed from the curse of the law is not the same as redeemed from the law.
Same long-time unanswered question as in my post quoted above:
How do the 12 Pauline texts in my post quoted above explicitly fit into your teaching?
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Yes you did, you said that they were not originally written in Greek they were translated into Greek.
The apostolic Church of God adopted the name Catholic some time between 107AD and 170AD. Do you even know what the word Catholic means and why they called the Church Catholic?
Peter(aka.Mark)1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the Kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the Gospel.
16 Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers. 17 And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after Me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
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