How should we keep the Sabbath holy?

[Hammster]

I do not see you making any case to be honest. All you seem to offer is your opinion or that you don't agree with the scripture I post, but don't offer any scripture to counter the scripture I post.

I agree with all scripture. So there is no scripture that counters other scripture. The problem is that you’ve made very generalized statements and have not backed them with scripture. Your position seems to be that not only is the Sabbath to be observed, but that it should also be a day of worship. I’ve asked where we find that requirement, and you have produced nothing that says it is. And if Saturday is a day of rest, how many SDAs do you know who work on Sunday? These are simple questions that go to things you’ve said in your thread.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I agree with all scripture. So there is no scripture that counters other scripture. The problem is that you’ve made very generalized statements and have not backed them with scripture. Your position seems to be that not only is the Sabbath to be observed, but that it should also be a day of worship. I’ve asked where we find that requirement, and you have produced nothing that says it is. And if Saturday is a day of rest, how many SDAs do you know who work on Sunday? These are simple questions that go to things you’ve said in your thread.

We seem to be going in circles. You keep restating your opinion that again is not backed up with any scriptures and seem to disregard these very clear scriptures.

Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

Jesus as our example was reading God’s Word in the Temple on the Sabbath day Luke 4:16 as it was His custom just like the disciples Acts 18:4, Acts 13:42

Isaiah 66:23 And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exodus 20:8 Is the day that God made holy, sanctified and blessed not worthy of worship, but apparently in your opinion, the first day is, when God told us to do our work and labor? Exodus 20:9

I do not know what other SDA's do on Sundays. I personally use that day to do household work. Again, this is not a very good argument and the main theme of the 4th commandment is keep the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8. Not sure why you are so worried what SDA's do or do not do, which has no impact on what you are supposed to be doing. Each of us will stand before Christ on the day of judgement based on our own doings. 2 Corinthians 5;10 It's not based on what others did or did not do, our obligation is to obey God.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

the Sabbath is a holy convocation Lev23:3

Nice thread sis. However, Gods' Sabbath is only a holy convocation in context to the annual Feast days of Leviticus 23. The Sabbath is not a holy convocation, outside of the annual Feast days. The Hebrew for "Holy convocation" is H6944; קֹדֶשׁ (qôdesh | ko'-desh); H4744; מִקְרָא (miqrâʼ | mik-raw') is not used in Exodus 20:8-11 and is only used in context to the annual Feast days of Leviticus 23. H6944; קֹדֶשׁ (qôdesh | ko'-desh) means "a calling out to a public assembly". That public assembly and context here in Leviticus 23:3 is to the annual Feast days. Outside of Leviticus 23, there is no mention in Gods' 4th commandment of the Sabbath being a "holy convocation" or a calling out to a public assembly or meeting *Exodus 20:8-11. That said the scriptures do clearly show however that Gods' people met in Church on the Sabbath to read Gods' Word and pray as shown in many new testament scriptures.

God bless.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Nice thread sis. However, Gods' Sabbath is not a holy convocation however, outside of the annual Feast days. The Hebrew for "Holy convocation" is H6944; קֹדֶשׁ (qôdesh | ko'-desh); H4744; מִקְרָא (miqrâʼ | mik-raw') is not used in Exodus 20:8-11 and is only used in context to the annual Feast days of Leviticus 23. H6944; קֹדֶשׁ (qôdesh | ko'-desh) means "a calling out to a public assembly". That public assembly and context here in Leviticus 23:3 is to the annual Feast days. Outside of Leviticus 23, which is in context to the annual Feast days there is no mention in Gods' 4th commandment being a "holy convocation" in Gods 4th commandment Exodus 20:8-11. That said the scriptures do clearly show however that Gods' people met in Church on the Sabbath to read Gods' Word and pray as shown in many new testament scriptures.

God bless.

Hi LGW!
Thanks for stopping by, why I agree with most of your posts, like we spoke about on our other tread, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. God bless!

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Hi LGW!
Thanks for stopping by, why I agree with most of your posts, like we spoke about on our other tread, I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one. God bless!

No problem sis, perhaps you can show from the scriptures why you disagree with what I have posted to you in the post you are quoting from? You do not have to do it here of course, perhaps you can pray about it and send me a PM. It is ok to agree to disagree but we should be able to provide a reason from the scriptures why we might disagree. Anyhow nice thread.

God bless.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No problem sis, perhaps you can show from the scriptures why you disagree with what I have posted to you in the post you are quoting from? You do not have to do it here of course, perhaps you can pray about it and send me a PM. It is ok to agree to disagree but we should be able to provide a reason from the scriptures why we might disagree. Anyhow nice thread.

God bless.

I thought we did that in our other thread. We can revisit that if you want.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I thought we did that in our other thread. We can revisit that if you want.

Actually no you didn't but that is ok.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Actually no you didn't but that is ok.

You can go back to the thread and look.

 

[pescador]

We can keep the sabbath holy by doing only necessary tasks and resting in God.

 

[Hammster]

We seem to be going in circles. You keep restating your opinion that again is not backed up with any scriptures and seem to disregard these very clear scriptures.

Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, a holy convocation. You shall do no work on it; it is the Sabbath of the Lord in all your dwellings.

Jesus as our example was reading God’s Word in the Temple on the Sabbath day Luke 4:16 as it was His custom just like the disciples Acts 18:4, Acts 13:42

Isaiah 66:23 And from one Sabbath to another,
All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exodus 20:8 Is the day that God made holy, sanctified and blessed not worthy of worship, but apparently in your opinion, the first day is, when God told us to do our work and labor? Exodus 20:9

I do not know what other SDA's do on Sundays. I personally use that day to do household work. Again, this is not a very good argument and the main theme of the 4th commandment is keep the Sabbath day holy Exodus 20:8. Not sure why you are so worried what SDA's do or do not do, which has no impact on what you are supposed to be doing. Each of us will stand before Christ on the day of judgement based on our own doings. 2 Corinthians 5;10 It's not based on what others did or did not do, our obligation is to obey God.

You can put verses together to make them say whatever you want. Obviously, there’s nothing in scripture that says we MUST worship on the Sabbath, or that we CANNOT worship on other days. If there were such verses, you would have posted them.

I think that due to lack of evidence, we can put this to rest.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

You can put verses together to make them say whatever you want. Obviously, there’s nothing in scripture that says we MUST worship on the Sabbath, or that we CANNOT worship on other days. If there were such verses, you would have posted them.

I think that due to lack of evidence, we can put this to rest.

Yes, verses all about the Sabbath. You seem to continue repeating yourself without any scripture evidence to support your case. We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Hammster]

Yes, verses all about the Sabbath. You seem to continue repeating yourself without any scripture evidence to support your case. We will have to agree to disagree.

Once again, I’m not making a case. The burden of proof is on you, the OP. And all you’ve done is post verses without context. Even your fellow SDA has pointed it out.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Once again, I’m not making a case. The burden of proof is on you, the OP. And all you’ve done is post verses without context. Even your fellow SDA has pointed it out.

My fellow SDA is not stating that I have not made my case though scripture, we disagree on one area. I already provided scripture and you have failed to make any argument based on the scripture that was posted and instead continue offering your opinion. I will stick with the scriptures.

 

[Hammster]

My fellow SDA is not stating that I have not made my case though scripture, we disagree on one area. I already provided scripture and you have failed to make any argument based on the scripture that was posted and instead continue offering your opinion. I will stick with the scriptures.

The problem is that you post scripture without regard for context. That’s why there no exegesis. If you paid attention to the context, you’d get a different result. So as I’ve stated, there’s no requirement to worship on the Sabbath. There’s also no prohibition to worshipping on the Sabbath. So there is nothing for me to prove.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The problem is that you post scripture without regard for context. That’s why there no exegesis. If you paid attention to the context, you’d get a different result. So as I’ve stated, there’s no requirement to worship on the Sabbath. There’s also no prohibition to worshipping on the Sabbath. So there is nothing for me to prove.

And you just keep posting your opinion without any scripture nor do you specifically address any of the scripture posted.

God’s saints will be worshipping the Lord every Sabbath for eternity Isaiah 66:23. God tells us to keep holy the Sabbath day Exodus 20:8 Jesus was at the Temple on the Sabbath day as His custom Luke 4:16 reading God’s Word so thats a good enough example for me.

You are free to disagree, but it changes not these very important scriptures.

 

[Hammster]

And you just keep posting your opinion without any scripture nor do you specifically address any of the scripture posted.

God’s saints will be worshipping the Lord every Sabbath for eternity Isaiah 66:23. God tells us to keep holy the Sabbath day Exodus 20:8 Jesus was at the Temple on the Sabbath day as His custom Luke 4:16 reading God’s Word so thats a good enough example for me.

You are free to disagree, but it changes not these very important scriptures.

So my argument is that if you want to worship on Saturday or Sunday, you are free to do so.


Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day⁠— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
— Colossians 2:16-17

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So my argument is that if you want to worship on Saturday or Sunday, you are free to do so.


Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day⁠— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
— Colossians 2:16-17

This is not referring to the seventh day Sabbath. There is more than one Sabbath in the Bible and this is clearly referring to the sabbath(s) feast days that is an ordinance Col 2:14 in the law of Moses that in context is about food no drink and not a commandment of God, that is about keeping the Sabbath day holy.

God wrote a covenant of Ten and this does not delete the commandment that God told us to Remember.

 

[Hammster]

This is not referring to the seventh day Sabbath. There is more than one Sabbath in the Bible and this is clearly referring to the sabbath(s) feast days that is an ordinance in the law of Moses that in context is about food no drink and not a commandment of God, that is about keeping the Sabbath day holy.

God wrote a covenant of Ten and this does not delete the commandment that God told us to Remember.

It says what it says.


Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day⁠— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
— Colossians 2:16-17

Don’t argue with God’s word.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

It says what it says.


Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day⁠— things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
— Colossians 2:16-17

Don’t argue with God’s word.

You can’t quote just part of it, so lets go through this in context:

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

This is clearly not referring to the weekly Sabbath. The Sabbath is not an ordinance its a commandment of God and it certainly not against us. God tells us the weekly Sabbath is “holy” and “blessed” so it certainly is not contrary to us. We are told the commandments of God are not grievous 1 John 5:3 This must be talking about the other sabbath(s) that is an ordinance in the law of Moses, not one of God’s eternal commandments. There are no contradictions in scripture, just misunderstandings.

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

This is in context to food and drink and the seventh day Sabbath is not about food or drink, but the sabbath(s) annual feasts day are, that was created after sin, not before like the Sabbath day.

17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

The seventh day Sabbath is not a shadow of anything, it points back to Creation “Remember” the Sabbath day Exodus 20:8-11 to Genesis 2:1-3.

The title of this tread is how to keep the Sabbath holy, so I would like to get back on topic. If you have something to contribute to the OP feel free to post otherwise I ask that you stay on topic. Thanks

 

[Freth]

The answer to the OP is found in the OP itself, in the scripture quoted. However, we only need to look at the command in Exodus 20:8.

Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Strong's H6942:

holy (qāḏaš): to consecrate, sanctify, prepare, dedicate, be hallowed, be holy, be sanctified, be separate; set apart​

Google:

holy: dedicated or consecrated to God; sacred.
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Is what you're doing on the Sabbath considered to be holy? That is, dedicated or consecrated to God; sacred; set apart?