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How many times can one be regenerated?

Discussion in 'Salvation (Soteriology)' started by corinth77777, Jan 18, 2020.

How many times can one be regenerated?

Poll closed Jan 25, 2020.
  1. Only once, since I take it to mean a birth liken to physical.

    66.7%
  2. As many times as you are restored from a fallen state

    33.3%
  3. As many of times until I feel His presence everyday

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  4. I don't know, I dont understand what born again really is

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  1. FreeGrace2

    FreeGrace2 Senior Veteran

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    A Christian, by definition, are believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. They are the same.

    However, James 2:19 isn't about believing that Jesus is the Christ, but rather believing that God is One. That is monotheism. It's not saving faith.

    And there is no such thing as "saving faith" for demons because there is nothing for them to believe in for salvation. In fact, there's no evidence from Scripture that any demon can avoid the lake of fire. So no salvation for them.

    By the time the mark of the beast is given, I don't believe there will be any disobedient believers around. Why? Because of the clear biblical teaching about God's divine discipline, which is painful (Heb 12:11), and includes physical death (1 Cor 11:30). iow, the judgments that precede the mark of the beast will kill disobedient believers along with the unsaved.

    Don't you realize that if any believer would take the mark, and therefore, would perish in the lake of fire, would CONTRADICT what Jesus said in John 10:28? That recipients of eternal life shall never perish.

    So why even try to argue that there will be disobedient believers who do take the mark and end up perishing in the lake of fire? All you're doing is contradicting the Lord.

    Why do you want to do that?
     
  2. corinth77777

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    Why did Christ give Himself for you
     
  3. FreeGrace2

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    He loves me. John 3:16

    What an odd question.
     
  4. corinth77777

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    That's why God gave His son.
     
  5. JLB777

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    Saved from eternal damnation.




    JLB
     
  6. JLB777

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    The Bible.
     
  7. corinth77777

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    Titus 2

    For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. It teaches us to say “No” to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled,upright and godly lives in this present age,[thirteen] while we wait for the blessed hopethe appearing of the glory of our great God and Savir, Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.

    Do you believe this has been done...that people have purified themselves ?
     
  8. corinth77777

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    Or rather , so that is not taken out of context,
    Do you believe all Christian's have been purified by Him?
     
  9. corinth77777

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    And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself even as he is pure.
     
  10. corinth77777

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    And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself even as he is pure.
     
  11. FreeGrace2

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    I proved otherwise, FROM THE CONTEXT.
     
  12. FreeGrace2

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    No, I don't believe that. people don't "purify themselves", and v.14 doesn't say that.

    It says that Christ "gave Himself...to redeem us...and to purify FOR HIMSELF a people that are His own".

    Christ is the One who purifies us. We don't purify ourselves.

    btw, why are you asking these weird questions?
     
  13. FreeGrace2

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    Now you're talking! Yes. The Bible says so.
     
  14. FreeGrace2

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    corinth77777 said:
    Or rather , so that is not taken out of context,
    Do you believe all Christian's have been purified by Him?
    Interesting how you are actually contradicting yourself. Or the Bible.
     
  15. corinth77777

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    I have not even said anything...lol
     
  16. JLB777

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    You “explained away” the truth in favor of a lie.


    Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Matthew 24:9-14


    The Gospel and be saved is the context. Enduring tribulation and persecution even unto death.



    JLB
     
  17. FreeGrace2

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    ??

    Then who's using your handle and posted #267, 269, 272, 273, 274, 275?
     
  18. FreeGrace2

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    You are certainly the one who knows how to favor a lie. And claiming that recipients of eternal life CAN perish, when Jesus very clearly that those He gives eternal life (recipients of eternal life) SHALL NEVER PERISH.

    Do you really not recognize that this refers specifically to the Tribulation??

    And read over the first verse in your context about being killed. That is physical death. And to "be saved" refers to how to avoid being killed.

    But you are free to favor the lie.
     
  19. corinth77777

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    I haven't said anything to attack you....
    AND HAVEN'T even got into a discussion
    Just trying to touch bases...and you have said ar least 3 negative things...what's that about?
     
  20. Sam91

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    This debate has gone on for 15 pages. I don't understand why it is still ongoing.

    My opinion based on what I think is plainly said in the bible: If you truly believe Christ our Lord, then you will be humbled and thankful for the chance of forgiveness. If you recognise God as Sovereign and have faith in Him, then you'll obey Him. If you have the Holy Spirit residing in you, then God's commands are written on your heart and you will walk humbly in the Spirit, seeking to live in the Lord's will.

    Then, in the end, you will be saved. At the moment I've been redeemed. The Holy Spirit can enable me to endure and when I die I'll be saved. Paul in Philippians didn't count the prize as already gained, he pressed on. A reading of Revelation 2 explains what that prize is.

    Our Lord said if we love Him we would obey Him and to state otherwise would be contradicting Him. We are but a grain of sand (less in my opinion), let's just humble ourselves and believe Him.
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2020
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