That is not what I said at all. Do you care to actually read what I wrote rather than reading what you want to see? All I have said is that you have made assumptions as part of your view and therefore should not tell the other person they are wrong as you have not outlined why they are wrong. If you had not made any assumptions but instead based it on evidence and logic instead of assumption then that would be different.Let's go back to 'I'm entitled to my opinion.' You can't admit to that and still say I'm not--merely because you think your way of looking at the matter is obviously correct.
What I don't care to do is play along with your desire to argue over nothing. The passage in question doesn't say what was claimed for it, and that's all there is to this, whether you like it or not. I might also note that this is the "Moderate Christians" forum, the "Bridge builders" forum, which was created for people who would discuss without the rancor found on certain of the other forums.That is not what I said at all. Do you care to actually read what I wrote rather than reading what you want to see?
What I don't care to do is play along with your desire to argue over nothing. The passage in question doesn't say what was claimed for it, and that's all there is to this, whether you like it or not. I might also note that this is the "Moderate Christians" forum, the "Bridge builders" forum, which was created for people who would discuss without the rancor found on certain of the other forums.
Since you are having trouble comprehending this perhaps I need to use larger print to get the message across. I am not arguing over nothing. I Simply said it is easy to see how the person has arrived at the conclusion they have and your rebuttal is based on an assumption not fact.What I don't care to do is play along with your desire to argue over nothing. The passage in question doesn't say what was claimed for it, and that's all there is to this, whether you like it or not. I might also note that this is the "Moderate Christians" forum, the "Bridge builders" forum, which was created for people who would discuss without the rancor found on certain of the other forums.
You mean you put on your Irenaeus/Cyprian glasses instead.Having come out of reformed protestantism I used to hold firmly to OSAS. Then I went ahead and studied both eastern theology and the early church fathers, and then looked at scripture without my luther/calvin glasses.
I am convinced that no amount of sin, even grievous sin, can separate us from the love of God. We must consciously reject our relationship with God in order to "loose salvation".
Apostasy means abandoning the faith. It doesn't presume that you ever had been saved.
Going to people who claim they are genuinely born-again saved,Assuming you were GENUINELY born-again and once saved, how easy is it to lose your salvation?