How easy is it to lose your salvation?

[salamacum]

Assuming you were GENUINELY born-again and once saved, how easy is it to lose your salvation?

 

[lismore]

Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God

The past I highlighted clinches it for me.

Salvation is God's gift to you.

What did you do to earn it? What can you do to loose it?

 

[Logeth]

Even though I am quite unsure about this subject, I voted the second option.
I am curious to find out the opinion of the one who voted with the general back-slide .

 

[REPHAIAHPEDAHEL]

You cannot lose your salvation!

 

[Logeth]

You cannot lose your salvation!

Why?

 

[salamacum]

In what sense is Christ's sacrifice PERFECT? In what sense is it much better than the once a year high priest sacrifice in the OT?

If there is no security, then have weekly masses, confessions, all the mechanics of repeated salvation > sin > insecurity > examination > confession > works of repentance > forgiveness > salvation > sin .......

 

[Dewi Sant]

I see salvation more as a relationship between ourselves and God.

God always loves us. Always.
We however can grow out of touch.

It is our own disinterest, and perhaps hatred, which causes us to resist the love of God.


Ever hated someone who loves you?
It's painful.

 

[Unmerited Favour]

Salvation is a gift from God through Jesus Christ.Salvation is by grace.We are saved by our faith in Jesus.Can someone lose his salvation?Yes.Romans 6:1 What shall we say then?Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound?We can lose our salvation if we turn away from the rightful part, but temporarily, we can easily get it back if we return to God.Our God is a merciful God.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I voted the second one. You can walk away from salvation, but it is not something that happens easily at ALL.

 

[TheDag]

Ephesians 2:8
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God

The past I highlighted clinches it for me.

Salvation is God's gift to you.

What did you do to earn it? What can you do to loose it?

one can easily reject a gift. Some see choosing to accept or reject the gift as earning salvation but I disagree.

 

[Anto9us]

I went with second option - difficult - apostasy needed

 

[Albion]

I voted the second one. You can walk away from salvation, but it is not something that happens easily at ALL.

Which, however, raises the question of whether you were ever truly born again. Answer #1 supposes (I assumed) that there's a diff between seeming to have been born again and really being born again, meaning saved.

 

[Anto9us]

I don't think ANY of the responses/choices assume anything other than "really being born again". I think ALL choices assume that someone has indeed been born again.

It is a classic discussion of OSAS vs. OSnAS - it is just that OSnAS has been broken down into 4 different "levels of difficulty"

So as it looks now - it is 7 for OSAS - 19 for OSnAS - which surprises me. I thought OSAS would have a majority - I have been on other boards where it would.

 

[hedrick]

I don't think ANY of the responses/choices assume anything other than "really being born again". I think ALL choices assume that someone has indeed been born again.

It is a classic discussion of OSAS vs. OSnAS - it is just that OSnAS has been broken down into 4 different "levels of difficulty"

So as it looks now - it is 7 for OSAS - 19 for OSnAS - which surprises me. I thought OSAS would have a majority - I have been on other boards where it would.

OSAS (although in very different forms) seems to be part of conservative Reformed theology and certain Baptist groups. It's very unlikely that these two groups together form a majority of American Christians, or even American Protestants.

CF tends to be dominated by conservatives, but I don't think it's particularly conservative Reformed. And I'd expect even fewer conservative Calvinists and Southern Baptists in Bridge Builders. I wouldn't be surprised by those poll results for CF as a whole, but I think the number is unexpectedly high for Bridge Builders. I can't help wondering whether all the votes were for regular participants in Bridge Builders.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

hmmm .. i looked at the question and the incorrect premise flag went off in my head . so i don't have an answer to the poll . since it is based on the faithfulness of Jesus Christ to keep someone from falling . then that's up to him is what i came to after meditating on it a little .

 

[Albion]

hmmm .. i looked at the question and the incorrect premise flag went off in my head

Me too, but I still answered, whereas you saw it the same way and chose to abstain. We see, therefore, that the poll is not going to be very representative (as if any of these can be).

 

[TomZzyzx]

I voted the second one. You can walk away from salvation, but it is not something that happens easily at ALL.

Is walking away from salvation the same thing as losing your salvation?

 

[salamacum]

Dead right - I mean REALLY born again.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Is walking away from salvation the same thing as losing your salvation?

walking away from salvation sounds like walking away from the religious atmosphere and disciplines

losing your salvation is based on an idea that the perception of people other than Jesus is necessary for salvation

though i don't propose the exact opposite of OSAS or ODAD .

i think just living in this question .. do i trust him? will need to be enough .

 

[salamacum]

Incorrect premise but how else can you succinctly express the dilemma (it IS a dilemma, which has taxed the church since it's creation) which all sensitive and thinking Christians must think about.