How do creationists test their ideas?

[Kylie]

Ok since we are using a Bible / star trek comparison.
Did the star trek tv/movie/ or what ever it is. Just burst into existence and one day appear on the tv back in 1966 out of thin air.
Or did star trek have a creator. Just wondering since we are making comparisons.

So if star trek has a creator the Bible has a creator correct.

Star Trek was created by the Great Bird of the Galaxy, whose inspiration guided Gene Roddenberry, Gene Coon, D C Fontana, David Gerrold and many others to create the show we know and love.

 

[d taylor]

Star Trek was created by the Great Bird of the Galaxy, whose inspiration guided Gene Roddenberry, Gene Coon, D C Fontana, David Gerrold and many others to create the show we know and love.

I see why atheist who uphold/believe in science, would also have a like for star trek .
They are both science fiction, the only difference is that star trek is stated as being fictitious. Where as science lies about being true but is also, a fantasy creation of scientist, instead of tv writers.

They both have created a fake outer space, fake planets, both have alien beings, etc...

 

[HitchSlap]

I see why atheist who uphold/believe in science, would also have a like for star trek .
They are both science fiction, the only difference is that star trek is stated as being fictitious. Where as science lies about being true but is also, a fantasy creation of scientist, instead of tv writers.

They both have created a fake outer space, fake planets, both have alien beings, etc...

Darn, you're onto us... run away, run away.

 

[Kylie]

I see why atheist who uphold/believe in science, would also have a like for star trek .
They are both science fiction, the only difference is that star trek is stated as being fictitious. Where as science lies about being true but is also, a fantasy creation of scientist, instead of tv writers.

They both have created a fake outer space, fake planets, both have alien beings, etc...

Where does it say in Star Trek that Star Trek is fiction?

And is that the best you can do? Just say it's fiction? I can say the same thing about the Bible. You need to provide evidence to support your claims.

 

[d taylor]

Where does it say in Star Trek that Star Trek is fiction?

And is that the best you can do? Just say it's fiction? I can say the same thing about the Bible. You need to provide evidence to support your claims.

The Bible is proved any day when anyone looks up at the raqia. And they see the sun, moon and stars moving over a flat stationary earth same location the birds fly as stated in the Bible.

Regardless if they believe it or not, truth from God does not need human approval.

 

[Kylie]

The Bible is proved any day when anyone looks up at the raqia. And they see the sun, moon and stars moving over a flat stationary earth same location the birds fly as stated in the Bible.

Regardless if they believe it or not, truth from God does not need human approval.

Star Trek is proved every day when people see how it predicted the future and accurately describes the universe we live in. We see that the first manned lunar landing was launched exactly when Star Trek said it would be. We see that we have tablet computers, computer voice interfaces and a whole lot of other things exactly as Star Trek predicted.

Regardless if you believe it or not, truth from the Great Bird of the Galaxy does not need human approval.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The Bible is proved any day when anyone looks up at the raqia. And they see the sun, moon and stars moving over a flat stationary earth same location the birds fly as stated in the Bible.

Regardless if they believe it or not, truth from God does not need human approval.

Your ability to test needs some work. A proper test could result in your ideas being shown to be wrong. What reasonable test could show that your belief is in error?

 

[d taylor]

Your ability to test needs some work. A proper test could result in your ideas being shown to be wrong. What reasonable test could show that your belief is in error?

I do not need to improve my testing, if you are the one seeing the sun as 93 million miles away, You need a lesson in judging distances.

You can try with this simple one.
See an ISS that is suppose to be 250 miles high. But photos taken, are taken, at the same height as as the 20 mile high red bull jump. Learn to see there is 200+ missing miles of distance between the two photos.

ISS

Red Bull

 

[Subduction Zone]

I do not need to improve my testing, if you are the one seeing the sun as 93 million miles away, You need a lesson in judging distances.

You can try with this simple one.
See an ISS that is suppose to be 250 miles high. But photos taken, are taken, at the same height as as the 20 mile high red bull jump. Learn to see there is 200+ missing miles of distance between the two photos.

ISS

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Red Bull
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Do you know the focal length of each lens? Do you know what a wide angle lens does? Both of those lenses may be wide angle lenses To get both near and far that is usually a must. There will be some distortion when one does that. The observed curvature from even the Red Bull Jump would still likely be minimal He was still in the atmosphere, but it was so think that it was not breathable at that height.

I hope that you are aware that curvature can be observed even on the surface of the Earth. When ships go over the horizon. When we look at distant cities across water. They disappear from the bottom up.

But that probably won't help. Most Flat Earthers have difficulty with math more complex than multiplying.

 

[lasthero]

I do not need to improve my testing, if you are the one seeing the sun as 93 million miles away, You need a lesson in judging distances.

You can try with this simple one.
See an ISS that is suppose to be 250 miles high. But photos taken, are taken, at the same height as as the 20 mile high red bull jump. Learn to see there is 200+ missing miles of distance between the two photos.

ISS

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Red Bull
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If you don’t think the ISS is as high as it’s purported to be, just wait for it to pass overhead and measure it.

 

[d taylor]

Do you know the focal length of each lens? Do you know what a wide angle lens does? Both of those lenses may be wide angle lenses To get both near and far that is usually a must. There will be some distortion when one does that. The observed curvature from even the Red Bull Jump would still likely be minimal He was still in the atmosphere, but it was so think that it was not breathable at that height.

I hope that you are aware that curvature can be observed even on the surface of the Earth. When ships go over the horizon. When we look at distant cities across water. They disappear from the bottom up.

But that probably won't help. Most Flat Earthers have difficulty with math more complex than multiplying.

like the curve seen in this nasa photo
science the great illusionist, they have you seeing curves even when they do not exist.

Or maybe you prefer their curved version which will match the science lie.

 

[Subduction Zone]

like the curve seen in this nasa photo
science the great illusionist, they have you seeing curves even when they do not exist.
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Or maybe you prefer their curved version which will match the science lie.
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Just because you do not understand something does not mean that it is not true.

 

[pitabread]

like the curve seen in this nasa photo
science the great illusionist, they have you seeing curves even when they do not exist.

I've noticed a common theme among flat Earthers that don't understand how focal lengths and photography works.

 

[Jimmy D]

like the curve seen in this nasa photo
science the great illusionist, they have you seeing curves even when they do not exist.
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Or maybe you prefer their curved version which will match the science lie.
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Worse...argument...ever.

Watch out.... those buildings are about to topple over!

 

[Aman777]

lol, this old argument again? It's been refuted countless times.

Prove it. Just post a single instance when God's Truth has been refuted (proven wrong) especially since NO one has been able to prove wrong it's agreement with Science History and Genetics. All I see that can be proven wrong, is your view.

 

[Aman777]

I've noticed a common theme among flat Earthers that don't understand how focal lengths and photography works.

The wider the lens the more "curved" the image becomes. A fish-eye lens gets a lot of pictures of photographer's feet.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Prove it. Just post a single instance when God's Truth has been refuted (proven wrong) especially since NO one has been able to prove wrong it's agreement with Science History and Genetics. All I see that can be proven wrong, is your view.

You have that backwards. The burden of proof is upon you. First you mush now prove that there is even such a thing as "God's Truth". Remember my little friend that has refuted all of your arguments so far? He is still waiting.

 

[Aman777]

You have that backwards. The burden of proof is upon you. First you mush now prove that there is even such a thing as "God's Truth". Remember my little friend that has refuted all of your arguments so far? He is still waiting.

I'm not afraid of your little hand waving friend that lives in the depths of your fantasy thinking. I've posted several agreements of Genesis with RECENT discoveries of Science and you haven't refuted a single one of them. Can you tell us HOW ancient man knew that water was NOT created? Never mind, Here's the answer.

The water was included in the Heaven/Air which was the first physical matter God created. God created Air and ground without form or Dust. After being exploded from within the first Stars, H2O came to our small planet. Air, Dust and Water is contained within every living thing. We also have FIRE or life which is given to us by the grace of Jesus. Some of us are already immortal according to Jesus. Jhn 11:26

 

[Subduction Zone]

I'm not afraid of your little hand waving friend that lives in the depths of your fantasy thinking. I've posted several agreements of Genesis with RECENT discoveries of Science and you haven't refuted a single one of them. Can you tell us HOW ancient man knew that water was NOT created? Never mind, Here's the answer.

You really should be afraid since he has refuted all of your arguments to date.

Here is your answer to your poorly asked question: They did not know that.

The water was included in the Heaven/Air which was the first physical matter God created. God created Air and ground without form or Dust. After being exploded from within the first Stars, H2O came to our small planet. Air, Dust and Water is contained within every living thing. We also have FIRE or life which is given to us by the grace of Jesus. Some of us are already immortal according to Jesus. Jhn 11:26

Ummmmm . . . No. Try again. Oh and let's not forget the formal refutation:

 

[pitabread]

The wider the lens the more "curved" the image becomes. A fish-eye lens gets a lot of pictures of photographer's feet.

Indeed. I'm wondering why Flat Earthers don't seem to know this.