How clueless can you get?

[civilwarbuff]

so you supplied evidence to support your post?
tulc(doesn't remember seeing any)

Yep, ignorance of the law is no defense....unless you are HRC......

 

[tulc]

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...I reject the corruption.

Good to know, so you'll be sitting this election out?
tulc(would like to suggest

)

 

[Landon Caeli]

And there it is. The thing so many Republican/conservatives want so desperately to say but realize what it makes them sound like when they do.
tulc(appreciates Landon Caeli's honesty)

The order I'm talking about is following the rule of law. We have laws. Lets know them and follow them....

...Or we can become the corrupt society that so many other nations are forced to deal with. We don't want that here.

 

[jacks]

It's not just Republicans that think she is less than honest...

"At a lively Sunday march in support of former Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, chants of “lock her up,” “Hillary for Prison” signs and t-shirts and calls for indictment were common among the most ardent supporters of Mr. Sanders, who arrived in Philadelphia to make their voices heard to the delegates attending the Democratic National Convention." WSJ

 

[Landon Caeli]

Good to know, so you'll be sitting this election out?
tulc(would like to suggest

)

The Republican party was prudent enough to allow the most popular candidate to take the nomination, rather than ensuring one of their established choices... That says something there too.

Lets end corruption together as a nation. We can do it.

 

[tulc]

The order I'm talking about is following the rule of law. We have laws. Lets follow them....

I'm not sure that's true: they said she didn't break any laws, but that doesn't seem to have stopped a lot of people from claiming she had. Some posters in this thread don't care what the law says, as far as they're concerned the only right answer is the answer they want, never mind the truth. It's like the faux Benghazi nonsense: 8 investigations, millions of tax dollars wasted and what's the result? 8 times of finding nothing criminal. You want to know why the email thing is so big in some peoples minds? It has nothing to do with emails, it was one more chance they thought "Hey! We finally found something to indict her about!" Want to know why they wont let it go? Because they've developed a religion in which Sec Clinton is the devil who always get away, and it makes them crazy that she isn't guilty when they want her to be so badly they're willing to ignore the truth, ignore what the law says they're even willing to embrace Mr Trump and give him a job they KNOW he's unqualified for just on the off chance he can get Sec. Clinton found guilty of something.

...Or we can become the corrupt society that so many other nations are forced to deal with. We don't want that here.

From your posts it kind of sounds like we already are that nation.
tulc(is really going to have to find some coffee soon)

 

[Waterwerx]

Instead of going on about Democrats vs Republicans, why don't people recognize they're both corrupt organizations that are running amuck within our government, and that they both need to go? One is just as bad as the other.

 

[Landon Caeli]

I'm not sure that's true: they said she didn't break any laws, but that doesn't seem to have stopped a lot of people from claiming she had. Some posters in this thread don't care what the law says, as far as they're concerned the only right answer is the answer they want, never mind the truth. It's like the faux Benghazi nonsense: 8 investigations, millions of tax dollars wasted and what's the result? 8 times of finding nothing criminal. You want to know why the email thing is so big in some peoples minds? It has nothing to do with emails, it was one more chance they thought "Hey! We finally found something to indict her about!" Want to know why they wont let it go? Because they've developed a religion in which Sec Clinton is the devil who always get away, and it makes them crazy that she isn't guilty when they want her to be so badly they're willing to ignore the truth, ignore what the law says they're even willing to embrace Mr Trump and give him a job thethhe's unqualified for just on the off chance he can get Sec. Clinton found guilty of something.


From your posts it kind of sounds like we already are that nation.
tulc(is really going to have to find some coffee soon)

But you do understand that breaking the law is not relative to our understanding of the law. Ignorance is never an excuse (unless you are an above-the-law elite), and makes one no less culpable for their own actions.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Instead of going on about Democrats vs Republicans, why don't people recognize they're both corrupt organizations that are running amuck within our government, and that they both need to go? One is just as bad as the other.

Which laws are the Republicans ignoring. Also, why not give a pat on the back to the RNC for allowing a complete outsider with the popular vote to take the nomination. That takes a lot of humility, and for that, I might even consider calling myself a Republican -something I've never considered in the past.

 

[Landon Caeli]

It could even be true that the entire outcome of this election will be based on each parties level of humility on whether they interferred with the popular choice or not.

Corruption vs humility. On the part of each party as a whole...

Think about that for a minute.

 

[Waterwerx]

Which laws are the Republicans ignoring. Also, why not give a pat on the back to the RNC for allowing a complete outsider with the popular vote to take the nomination. That takes a lot of humility, and for that, I might even consider calling myself a Republican -something I've never considered in the past.

Assuming he doesn't either get a boot in the behind or somehow manages to successfully clean "House", I don't expect him to change much with regards to how our government has been malfunctioning.
Humility? I think fear of a guaranteed Democratic victory for the presidency had more to do with it. Had they decided to not let Trump in and force him to run as an independent, they essentially would've been shooting themselves in the foot. Republicans would've been split between Trump and whoever the RNC endorsed while Clinton would not have to deal with such a split in her party.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Assuming he doesn't either get a boot in the behind or somehow manages to successfully clean "House", I don't expect him to change much with regards to how our government has been malfunctioning.
Humility? I think fear of a guaranteed Democratic victory for the presidency had more to do with it. Had they decided to not let Trump in and force him to run as an independent, they essentially would've been shooting themselves in the foot. Republicans would've been split between Trump and whoever the RNC endorsed while Clinton would not have to deal with such a split in her party.

I don't know, Ted Cruz and some other establishment republicans seem to think it's not such a big deal if Hillary actually wins it.

...'Vote your conscience from the top to the bottom of the ticket' they say.

They might have favored a more corrupt decision by the RNC. We'll see how that fares for them too.

 

[Deadworm]

Hillary is God's woman for out time! And oh, do we need a devout United Methodist feminist now! Actually, our country is now so polarized that Hillary could moonlight as an axe murderer and, if her connections got her off, she'd still turn most states blue. We live in a post-Christian era and the Democrats embody the new secularism that is becoming America's religion. Forget Benghazi and ghastly E-mail scandals and just watch this hilarious report by Todd Starnes:


The new symbol of Democratic secularism is the new habit of prayer heckling at the DNC, when they have the gall to choose a Christian minister instead of a Muslim cleric for an invocation. At least during this DNC, the prayer heckling was prompted by the request that God bless Hillary! We must NEVER ask God to bless someone we disagree with! But at least this year's prayer heckling was an upgrade over the actual heckling of God during the last DNC! Sigh!

 

[pescador]

Typically someone investigated by the FBI as well as having been accused of other dishonest things would not typically become a prime candidate by any party... Typically.

But Hillary is very high ranking and influential in her party. To become the nominee for president and knowing all this is a clear indication of her elite status in government.

...there is no hiding the obvious.

Being investigated is no crime. Accusing someone of dishonest things doesn't make them guilty.

Of course she has an elite status in government. She was First Lady and accomplished a lot. She was Secretary of State, and spoke with the full authority of the United States. She was a senator from one of the largest and most powerful states in the country. She has YEARS of experience at the highest levels of government.

Trump, on the other hand, has none.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Kool-Aid anyone?

 

[Waterwerx]

Kool-Aid anyone?

Are we expecting a Kool-Aid guy looking like Putin to come breaking through one of the walls shouting "oda"?

 

[civilwarbuff]

 

[tulc]

Hillary is God's woman for out time! And oh, do we need a devout United Methodist feminist now! Actually, our country is now so polarized that Hillary could moonlight as an axe murderer and, if her connections got her off, she'd still turn most states blue. We live in a post-Christian era and the Democrats embody the new secularism that is becoming America's religion. Forget Benghazi and ghastly E-mail scandals and just watch this hilarious report by Todd Starnes:


The new symbol of Democratic secularism is the new habit of prayer heckling at the DNC, when they have the gall to choose a Christian minister instead of a Muslim cleric for an invocation. At least during this DNC, the prayer heckling was prompted by the request that God bless Hillary! We must NEVER ask God to bless someone we disagree with! But at least this year's prayer heckling was an upgrade over the actual heckling of God during the last DNC! Sigh!

I'm curious did she call the Republicans the enemy? Because the prayer at the RNC did:

Hello Republicans! I’m Pastor Mark Burns from the great state of South Carolina! I’m going to pray and I’m going to give the benediction. And you know why? Because we are electing a man in Donald Trump who believes in the name of Jesus Christ. And Republicans, we got to be united because our enemy is not other Republicans — but is Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party.
Let’s pray together. Father God, in the name of Jesus, Lord we’re so thankful for the life of Donald Trump. We’re thankful that you are guiding him, the you are giving him the words to unite this party, this country, that we together can defeat the liberal Democratic Party, to keep us divided and not united. Because we are the United States of America, and we are the conservative party under God.

To defeat every attack that comes against us, to protect the life of Donald Trump, give him the words, give him the space, give him the power and the authority to be the next President of the United States of America, in Jesus’ name — if you believe it, shout Amen!

as opposed to this prayer (none of which I noticed Mr Starnes actually played) so here, you be the judge as to which pastors prayer was divisive and if all that "heckling" was what happened:

tulc(kind of likes to see things for himself)

 

[Waterwerx]

That looks like a very angry Obama

 

[pat34lee]

When was she tried and convicted?
tulc(is just curious)

Did you watch the FBI guy lay out his recommendations?
He pointed out where Hillary broke at least two laws, but
still recommended no prosecution. She could have gotten
10 years for each count. Not prosecuted =/= not guilty