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Kamala Harris for President - the excitement is growing

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I Disagree

Joe Biden inherited Donald J. Trumps stay in Mexico policy, and it worked in keeping illegal immigrants on the Mexican side of the border, its that simple
Mexico has rejected the policy.
 
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Kamala Harris is not electable, unless something spectacular happens

her approval ratings were consistently as bad, or worse, than Joe Biden's

Democrats are gaslighting themselves into thinking this woman is a good candidate, or can beat Trump.
I agree.

She can sure cackle, though.
 
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Judge the salad for yourselves:

All of these are from a single press conference when Trump was signing executive orders about Hong Kong and China:
“But it’s still – we’ve done a great job, get no credit for it and I don’t want the credit, I want the people that have done this great job – the people that have done such an incredible job in building the ventilators and doing the testing and building a testing platform that’s been amazing.”
“That basically means no windows, no nothing. It’s very hard to do. I tell people when they want to go into some of these buildings, how are your eyes because they won’t be good in five years.”
“Human trafficking, one of the worst things ever, all at a level that it’s never been at – because of the Internet, you wouldn’t think – you’d think of it as an ancient statement.”

There's more but I can't bring myself to post them (unless you ask).
I could post a video with 12 straight minutes of Trump incoherently rambling like a drunk at the end of a bar, but his language is not acceptable.

In contrast, Harris speaks in complete sentences and can stay focused when she speaks. She is an ex-prosecutor who prosecuted sex crimes and fraud. It is a contrast to Trump.
 
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Democrats (and MSM) before the infamous debate performance: Biden good, Kamala bad.
Democrats (and MSM) after Kamala is railroaded to the top: Biden bad, Kamala good.

Both entities were exposed, at the debate, as the in the tank liars for Biden. Which begs the question, What lies were they telling about Trump? That question is on the mind of those who actually think about what happened.
creative fantasing on your part again.
It was never Biden good, Kamala bad
Nor is it Biden bad, Kamala good.

Not even when Harris's last name is used, like Joe's last name is used. I say that as the subtle misogyny is noted.

Harris was not "railroaded." She is stepping up. Biden is showing class and patriotism in stepping down
 
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You really want to go there?!;)

Kamala really wants to be unburdened by what has been. :rolleyes:
Yeah, OK. From the same press conference about his executive orders on Hong Kong and China:

“But then the – then the virus came in and the world is a different place but we’re now getting back and one of the reasons the market’s doing so – it’s almost at the point that it was at prior to the plague – almost.”
“China has 1.4 billion people, we have 325 – probably 325 million approximately – nobody can give the exact count, we’re trying to get an exact count but you have, over the years, many illegals who have come into the country, so it depends on how you want to count it.”
“Possibly it’s one of the reasons – certainly it’s one of the very big reasons trade and things related to trade that I got elected in the first place – I’ve been talking about it for a long time, along with many other subjects, frankly.”
Pass the mayonnaise!
 
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she will say something like

"we need universal healthcare, because healthcare should be universal, and it is all about public health, and that should be universal, and everyone should be healthy, and that is why we need universal healthcare"
True, typical word salad reply.

"And we'll make the rich pay their fair share". "What is a fair share, Kamala?" >crickets<.
 
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True, typical word salad reply.

"And we'll make the rich pay their fair share". "What is a fair share, Kamala?" >crickets<.
I've seen clips of her speaking. She usually does not use complete sentences then laughs and laughs and laughs. I don't know what she finds so funny.
 
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I would love to watch her debate seriously. She'd lose.
She would call out every lie he said and there were lots of them at the last debate. She is way sharper mentally and experienced in arguing her views.
It would honestly be the younger ex-prosecutor vs. the 78 y.o. convicted felon who will try to dodge questions.
 
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She would call out every lie he said and there were lots of them at the last debate. She is way sharper mentally and experienced in arguing her views.
It would honestly be the younger ex-prosecutor vs. the 78 y.o. convicted felon who will try to dodge questions.
I don't think you're wrong, but ok. I don't necessarily like or support Trump, and feel very sad about this current state of affairs. I have nothing more to add.
 
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Smiles, she's as good as her teleprompter and that isn't saying much, give her free reign in a debate and it will be laughing word salads.
You really must be living in a different reality. I think a lot of people are. Which is a good thing for the Dems. You will underestimate and write off Harris at your peril.

Here's a tip - I'll give it to you for nothing. Lift your game. Because you'll need to. I wouldn't say that the Panic Button has been pressed yet by Team Trump. But there'll be a hand hovering over it during the next couple of weeks. They'll hit it when reality comes a-knocking.
 
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That just comes across as a biased report from whoever did it. And who are they asking the question too? Intellectual elites who are basically liberal?
It was adjusted for political views. And even if the left leaning votes were discounted, he only managed a score of 25% or so. Half the average. So even people likely to have supported him think he's deep into the bottom half of the list.
 
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This is very interesting. I think the quotes above are actually very reasonable things for him to say at the time. I have to confess than much of what he says is cringeworthy, which is why I was against him at first and still avoid listening to him (as I do all politicians). But I read the above and it seems fine. Especially for "off the cuff" talk.
They were part of his press conference on his executive order on Hong Kong and China. You must have noticed that he has gone off on several tangents, to put it kindly.

However, the reason I posted the selection of quotations is to illustrate his syntax, which is what I understand the criticism of' word salad' means. His speaking style is chaotic and fumblingly ungrammatical. I am used to a higher standard.

(I once heard a talk by an English Appeal Court Judge. He spoke for 45 minutes without notes with no hesitations, no repetitions and covered precisely the points he wanted to make. That is the antithesis of 'word salad'. Trump should pay careful attention to his script - and stick to it)
 
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I would love to watch her debate seriously. She'd lose.
I think we are all missing a trick by seeing these debates as contests. A truly serious debate should explore the issues at stake and shed light on them. At the end everybody should have a clearer idea of the participants' views - and a better understanding of the issues discussed.

As it is now, there is much heat and very little light. Commentators make their judgments on the 'winner'. These confrontations might as well be wrestling matches for all the use they are.

There will almost certainly be such a spectacle. All the Trump camp will declare that 'Trump won'. All the Harris camp will say the opposite. We will probably line up with who we like and policy will have been largely ignored.
 
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Mexico has rejected the policy.
Of course because weak, washed up Biden is in office

Donald J. Trump stated if Mexico didn't work with him on the stay in Mexico policy it would be increased tariffs on Mexican products at the $border$ there was immediate cooperation
 
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You really want to go there?!;)

Kamala really wants to be unburdened by what has been. :rolleyes:
That doesn't make sense to you? I'm honestly perplexed by people bringing this up. In a recent post there was a quoted comment by someone who called it a Marxian Luciferian incantation. Just....what? It's plain English. Anyone who can't understand this very basic statement can't have English as their first language.

Maybe try it in Spanish. It still makes perfect sense: ...lo que pueden aliviar de lo que ha sido.
 
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You really must be living in a different reality. I think a lot of people are. Which is a good thing for the Dems. You will underestimate and write off Harris at your peril.

Here's a tip - I'll give it to you for nothing. Lift your game. Because you'll need to. I wouldn't say that the Panic Button has been pressed yet by Team Trump. But there'll be a hand hovering over it during the next couple of weeks. They'll hit it when reality comes a-knocking.
Brad reality is Kamala stands for the progressive liberal base, the moderates have and are fleeing the democratic camp, her border crisis alone cancels her from any prospect of giving Barrack Obama his 4th term as president, it has been item #1 with all Americans and she failed, throw in her progressive agendas and her boat has sunk

Americans don't want there children being kidnapped from them at public schools, being given over to the progressive agenda in hormone therapy, Gender Equity, CRT, Homosexuality, Drag Queen Library Time, on and on

There is a reason the camera didn't turn around at her rally in Wisconsin showing the crowd size, possibly her and Joe Biden have something in common regarding rally size
 
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Brad reality is Kamala stands for the progressive liberal base...
Yes. And her polices on women's reproductive rights, health and gun laws are what the majority of US citizens support. Ignore that at your peril
...her border crisis alone...
It sounds like you don't know what her job was in that regard. Can you tell me what you thought it was? We can discuss it.
There is a reason the camera didn't turn around at her rally in Wisconsin showing the crowd size, possibly her and Biden have something in common
Lucky you were there to do a head count. And if you think that's important then you don't have your eye on the ball. We're seeing a lot of that.
 
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Yes. And her polices on women's reproductive rights, health and gun laws are what the majority of US citizens support. Ignore that at your peril
To many conservative's it's called the right to commit 1st degree premeditated murder (Abortion)
It sounds like you don't know what her job was in that regard. Can you tell me what you thought it was? We can discuss it.
She was assigned border Czar by Biden and 10 million illegal entries into the United States have taken place since, its called catch and release into the US
Lucky you were there to do a head count. And if you think that's important then you don't have your eye on the ball. We're seeing a lot of that.
It was a big smile watching Biden at his rallies with 50 attendees present, more cameras than attendees
 
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To many conservative's it's called the right to commit 1st degree premeditated murder (Abortion)

She was assigned border Czar by Biden and 10 million illegal entries into the United States have taken place since, its called catch and release into the US

It was a big smile watching Biden at his rallies with 50 attendees present, more cameras than attendees
You were already shown that she was never the border czar so that is willful misrepresentation

As to her first rally, which was quick, there are images:

web1_Kamala_rally_IN.jpg


harris-wisconsin.jpg
 
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