Hell.

[dollarsbill]

I've heard many people with many different beliefs "claim' the Holy Spirit told them what to believe. I have a hard time thinking God would be the author of such confusion.

Indeed.

 

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The Holy Spirit isn't going to tell you that YOUR translation is right and all others are wrong.

The Holy Spirit is here to lead and guide us into all truth. It is the hidden Spiritual Word (hidden Manna) you do not hear or see. The Hidden manna. If Bible goes against what God has concealed in His Word then it is the letter that killeth.

 

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I've heard many people with many different beliefs "claim' the Holy Spirit told them what to believe. I have a hard time thinking God would be the author of such confusion.

The confussion is in Babylon. The religious system.

How many different religions out there all claiming they have the truth. Just look at this forum. Now thats confusion.

 

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But just another valid point you do not see.

 

[dollarsbill]

The Holy Spirit is here to lead and guide us into all truth. It is the hidden Spiritual Word (hidden Manna) you do not hear or see. The Hidden manna. If Bible goes against what God has concealed in His Word then it is the letter that killeth.

The Holy Spirit is telling you that everyone else is wrong?

 

[Sophrosyne]

The Holy Spirit is telling you that everyone else is wrong?

Apparently he is saying that you and I don't have the Holy Spirit in us

 

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Apparently he is saying that you and I don't have the Holy Spirit in us

There is a difference between having Christ within you. And being inchrist.

What I am saying is you are hearing man and his religion and not God's Spirit. Spiritual hearing is singular. Not plural. Religious hearing is plural.

 

[Sophrosyne]

There is a difference between having Christ within you. And being inchrist.

What I am saying is you are hearing man and his religion and not God's Spirit. Spiritual hearing is singular. Not plural. Religious hearing is plural.

Again the query was.... are you accusing us of not having the Holy Spirit in us or not? yes or no?

 

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Again the query was.... are you accusing us of not having the Holy Spirit in us or not? yes or no?

Nope. Never said that. it is the hearing the spirit is where the problem is. Otherwise you would not believe Jesus is a monster who is going to torture billions and billions of lost people forever and ever He never called.

 

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Sophrosyne

Do you know the difference between being in Christ and Christ with in you?

 

[Sophrosyne]

Nope. Never said that. it is the hearing the spirit is where the problem is. Otherwise you would not believe Jesus is a monster who is going to torture billions and billions of lost people forever and ever He never called.

Strawman argument fail, double time.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Sophrosyne

Do you know the difference between being in Christ and Christ with in you?

Yes

 

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Yes

Well tell us if you are a spiritual man as you claim?

 

[Noxot]

2Pet 2:1-2 (YLT)
(2:1) And there did come also false prophets among the people, as also among you there shall be false teachers, who shall bring in besides destructive sects, and the Master who bought them denying, bringing to themselves quick destruction, (2:2) and many shall follow out their destructive ways, because of whom the way of the truth shall be evil spoken of,

the word is better translated as "destructive" I checked the greek.

but anyways i'm all for the english translations being inspired by God too. I mean, the entire earth is filled with the glory of God... but not many will accept that word "damnable" as a good proof that they are doing said actions imo.

"the truth shall be evil spoken of" well yeah it is pretty messed up to think God is some kind of God that make people stone people for weird crimes for instance. unless you read it according to the spiritual, but the hardness of peoples hearts makes people condemn others to death even though that is not the will of God. even CHRIST Himself did not want people to stone other people. therefore He shows the wickedness of the hearts of men and how they always use His word to hurt and condemn others.


but we must all be careful as we can quickly fall into traps. a few spiritual people can quickly be able to come into concord if they are spiritual... and I have hope we will all get closer and closer to the Father.. as we need HIM.

but anyways as you can see in this world right now there are many many people who do not believe in Christ BECAUSE OF THE HARD HEARTS OF THE BELIEF SYSTEMS THAT BLASPHEME GOD. as it says: 2 peter (2:2) and many shall follow out their destructive ways, because of whom the way of the truth shall be evil spoken of,

or if you want more proof because that may seem lacking: Matt 23:13 (YLT) `Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye shut up the reign of the heavens before men, for ye do not go in, nor those going in do ye suffer to enter.

no one likes being called a hypocrite/play actor but Jesus Christ called people out. but the spirit of the world just gets offended and kills people that call out others, even though they should have listened to Christ instead of murder him. I know how offended people get when you go against what they believe. that does not seem to be of Christ though.


but I know that God will save us all and destroy our wickedness. because God Loves all His creatures. and if I am a king and a lord in the kingdom of God, then I get to judge people. and what i judge is to have mercy on them and to make them better. and I will implore God, that it be so, and God will listen to me, because I know God loves me. and GOD IS NOT OUTDONE BY MY OWN LOVE FOR PEOPLE.

but the only thing the wickedness in hearts of men can say is that, "No, No, God is not ~Only Good~". and then proceed to try and tell me that their wicked hearts judgments are the same as Gods, but they stumble over the stone because the do not seek the things of God, but rather they seek the things of this world, because they act just like the world in their understanding. but we are not of this world right?

but I believe you are in chains. we all have been given many good things from God. I understand that. but if you don't want your feet washed, then you have no part in the kingdom of heaven. or as jesus said:John 13:8 (ESV) Peter said to him, “You shall never wash my feet.” Jesus answered him, “If I do not wash you, you have no share with me.”

TL;DR- God please come and make us pure.

 

[createdtoworship]

What do you think? Do you know the Lord's Prayer?
Luk 11:2 And he said to them, `When ye may pray, say ye: Our Father who art in the heavens; hallowed be Thy name: Thy reign come; Thy will come to pass, as in heaven also on earth; [YLT]
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

Psa 22:26 The meek shall eat and be satisfied: they shall praise the LORD that seek him: your heart shall live for ever.

27 All the ends of the world shall remember and turn unto the LORD: and all the kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and He is the governor among the nations.

9 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.

10 For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.

11 But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.

18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.

Psa 147:12 Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion.

Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

Isa 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth

Zep 2:3 Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger.

Psa 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

the millenium reign is just for a thousand years on earth, then heaven baby!

 

[he-man]

the millenium reign is just for a thousand years on earth, then heaven baby!

Scripture Please.
You must mean then heaven on Earth.

18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.

Psa 147:12 Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

 

[createdtoworship]

Scripture Please.
You must mean then heaven on Earth.

18 The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.

Psa 147:12 Praise the LORD, O Jerusalem; praise thy God, O Zion.

Rev 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

the earthly reign is only a thousand years, then the renovation of the earth by fire, then the new heaven and new earth will be after that. Because the earth will be created new and the new jerusalem will be on earth (instead of in the midst of heaven (like it was during the millenium)).

Revelation 20:4b
..."they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years." It's the kingdom of heaven, and the Kingdom of God but it's not heaven on earth technically because satan will be loosed in it. Heaven is a place where there is no devil or satan tempting anymore and there is no more tears etc.

 

[Timothew]

the earthly reign is only a thousand years, then the renovation of the earth by fire, then the new heaven and new earth will be after that. Because the earth will be created new and the new jerusalem will be on earth (instead of in the midst of heaven (like it was during the millenium)).

Revelation 20:4b
..."they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years." It's the kingdom of heaven, and the Kingdom of God but it's not heaven on earth technically because satan will be loosed in it. Heaven is a place where there is no devil or satan tempting anymore and there is no more tears etc.

My bible doesn't contain that picture.

 

[createdtoworship]

My bible doesn't contain that picture.

notice the Bible is quoted throughout the picture, at least a dozen or more times. And even though the disciples were not artists they did paint a picture with words.

 

[Timothew]

notice the Bible is quoted throughout the picture, at least a dozen or more times. And even though the disciples were not artists they did paint a picture with words.

They don't include, nor do they picture John 6:40
"For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”

So the picture is a picture of one person's misunderstanding about what the bible says. That's why I said "that picture is not in my bible." It doesn't reflect biblical truth.