5thKingdom said:
To ask your question... has there always been a "Beast" and an "Image" and a "Mark"
You need to first DEFINE what each term represents.
Can you do that?
First, you don't need to say you can't because we both know you can't.
The problem with me just telling you WHAT the "Image" and "Mark" represent
is it's too much for you to understand.
I have been trying to get people to understand the definition of "Beast" for a while
and they cannot "understand"... the definition of the "Image" and "Mark"
is BASED on first understanding the "Beasts"
If someone cannot understand the definition (and historical fulfillment) of the "Beasts"
there is NO WAY they will understand the "Image" (of the Beast) and the "Mark" (of the Beast).
There is no doubt the definition of the "Image" and "Mark" are something you (or any Believer)
has ever considered before. Daniel 12:4 and 12:9-10 PROMISES that much.
You are confused.
Daniel's "Beasts" represent the Four "Kingdoms" that arise on earth... during the History of Man
You are talking about the TWO Revelation "Beasts"
The Fourth "Beast" on earth consists of:
TWO "Beasts" and TWO "Woes" and TWO "Trumpets" and TWO "heads/kings"
The FIRST Revelation Beast is during the 1st Woe, the 5th Trumpet and the 7th "head/king"
The SECOND Revelation Beast is during the 2nd Woe, the 6th Trumpet and the 8th "head/king"
There is an "Image" and "Mark" for EACH of Daniel's Four "Beasts/Kingdoms" on earth
There is also an "Image" and "Mark" for BOTH of the Revelation Beasts.
Again, do not conflate the Four Beasts on earth with the TWO Revelation Beasts
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To ask your question... has there always been a "Beast" and an "Image" and a "Mark"
You need to first DEFINE what each term represents.
Can you do that?
If I say I can't, wouldn't it be helpful to the discussion, that if you can, that you then do just that?
First, you don't need to say you can't because we both know you can't.
The problem with me just telling you WHAT the "Image" and "Mark" represent
is it's too much for you to understand.
I have been trying to get people to understand the definition of "Beast" for a while
and they cannot "understand"... the definition of the "Image" and "Mark"
is BASED on first understanding the "Beasts"
If someone cannot understand the definition (and historical fulfillment) of the "Beasts"
there is NO WAY they will understand the "Image" (of the Beast) and the "Mark" (of the Beast).
Who knows, but depending on what you might say, and depending on whether I see it making logical sense, maybe you might say something that I never took into consideration before,
There is no doubt the definition of the "Image" and "Mark" are something you (or any Believer)
has ever considered before. Daniel 12:4 and 12:9-10 PROMISES that much.
the way I'm looking at it, until a beast rises out of the sea, another out of the earth, and that Revelation 13:14 is fulfilled, how can there even be an image prior to that?
You are confused.
Daniel's "Beasts" represent the Four "Kingdoms" that arise on earth... during the History of Man
You are talking about the TWO Revelation "Beasts"
The Fourth "Beast" on earth consists of:
TWO "Beasts" and TWO "Woes" and TWO "Trumpets" and TWO "heads/kings"
The FIRST Revelation Beast is during the 1st Woe, the 5th Trumpet and the 7th "head/king"
The SECOND Revelation Beast is during the 2nd Woe, the 6th Trumpet and the 8th "head/king"
There is an "Image" and "Mark" for EACH of Daniel's Four "Beasts/Kingdoms" on earth
There is also an "Image" and "Mark" for BOTH of the Revelation Beasts.
Again, do not conflate the Four Beasts on earth with the TWO Revelation Beasts
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