Gun Grooming

[rambot]

Absolutely not :

Violent first-person shooter video games emotionally desensitizing

Researchers from the University of Bonn found brain activity patterns in heavy gamers that differed from those of non-gamers. The study's results have just been published in the scientific journal Biological Psychology.

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“First-person shooter” games have been discussed in connection with violence over and over. Participants take on the role of a shooter fighting opponents in a war-like situation using different weapons. The Norwegian killer is said to have participated in such worlds intensely before he killed dozens of people in Oslo’s government district and on the vacation island of Utoya. And after the shooting sprees in Erfurt, Emsdetten and Winnenden, the debate whether violent games lower the inhibition threshold and result in violent behavior was revived again.​

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Psychologists, epileptologists and neurologists from the University of Bonn studied the effect of shoot ’em up game images and other emotionally charged photos on the brain activity of heavy gamers.​

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“Compared to people who abstain from first-person shooters, they show clear differences in how emotions are controlled,” reported lead author Dr. Christian Montag from the Institute of Psychology at the University of Bonn.​

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ClinicalTrials.gov

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You are mistaken - I am addressing the topic from a factual viewpoint - your interpretation of dramatic reaction from me has ZERO to do with the topic.

Yeah. Unfortunately, there is no evidence to support an ACTUAL link between ACTIVE violence and FPS/violent video games.

Yes, I agree video games are unnecessarily violent. Yes I agree they are not healthy. Yes, I do not allow my children to play them.

No, there is no PROVABLE link between the two.
The Argument That Video Games Spur Mass Shootings Is Losing Steam

Korea, China and Japan, I'd wager have MORE kids playing those games, but gun violence there? Nothing.

So again, video games are the lazy explanation.

Any other ideas of what helped to create a 6 year old [edit: Attempted] murderer?

 

[Larniavc]

First-person shooter” games have been discussed in connection with violence over and over.

You realise that being trained with guns has a similar habituation response?

 

[Ana the Ist]

No one would have died if he was not there. His fault.

I'm sorry...I don't expect you to be a master logician or anything but the rioters didn't need to be there either.

If I had to pick which of the two should have stayed home....it's an easy choice. One went there to help injured people and prevent property damage.

The mob went there to injure people, damage property, and loot.

I understand that your media sources, elected officials, even Biden all lied to you about this case....maybe you didn't pay attention to the trial, hear the evidence, or watch the video.

Ultimately, the protesters were protesting a shooting that was 100% justified...the cop wasn't even charged...and they did so because, again, the media spread a bunch of lies. They also convinced themselves that they were somehow moral and righteous by an organization that did nothing but rob the people they claimed to want to help.

You should reevaluate the things you believe....and their sources. It's strange to see people lied to....and still trust the liars.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yeah. Unfortunately, there is no evidence to support an ACTUAL link between ACTIVE violence and FPS/violent video games.

Yes, I agree video games are unnecessarily violent. Yes I agree they are not healthy. Yes, I do not allow my children to play them.

No, there is no PROVABLE link between the two.
The Argument That Video Games Spur Mass Shootings Is Losing Steam

Korea, China and Japan, I'd wager have MORE kids playing those games, but gun violence there? Nothing.

So again, video games are the lazy explanation.

Any other ideas of what helped to create a 6 year old murderer?

Is the teacher dead?

 

[rambot]

Is the teacher dead?

oops! Sorry. You're right! Still alive.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Ditto "sexual grooming" by transgender people.

Well there's actually cases of it being done by teachers under the guise of early childhood sex education but I don't know if the teachers are trans themselves.

But they aren't killing anyone so it really isn't as important.

Just permanent physical and psychological damage. Done by the educational system.

Anyway, since you admitted you don't have any evidence we might as well look for some right?

Homicide is a leading cause of death in kids, and rates are rising, study finds | CNN

Homicide is a leading cause of death for children in the United States, a new study says, and the overall rate has increased an average of 4.3% each year for nearly a decade.

www.google.com

Youth homicide rates for young black men is the highest so its a sure thing they're doing the most murder as well.

Firearms...I'm not even going to look it up, but it's going to be pistols, not AR15s. Feel free to even try to prove me wrong.

Your pictures were way off @rambot.

Where do you find this nonsense? This would be more accurate....

Now that's a gun safety problem. Who do you think is grooming them @rambot?

I gave you a chance to fix the OP....now I'm gonna see if you want to keep running with it.

 

[Always in His Presence]

IMHO - the thread doesn't make sense.

Do people have to die to make something wrong?

Shooting people in the genital's is wrong, but cutting them off is right.

The two topic are not compatible, nor comparable.

I'm out.

 

[rambot]

Well there's actually cases of it being done by teachers under the guise of early childhood sex education but I don't know if the teachers are trans themselves.


Just permanent physical and psychological damage. Done by the educational system.

Anyway, since you admitted you don't have any evidence we might as well look for some right?

Homicide is a leading cause of death in kids, and rates are rising, study finds | CNN

Homicide is a leading cause of death for children in the United States, a new study says, and the overall rate has increased an average of 4.3% each year for nearly a decade.

www.google.com

Youth homicide rates for young black men is the highest so its a sure thing they're doing the most murder as well.

Firearms...I'm not even going to look it up, but it's going to be pistols, not AR15s. Feel free to even try to prove me wrong.

Your pictures were way off @rambot.

Where do you find this nonsense? This would be more accurate....

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Now that's a gun safety problem. Who do you think is grooming them @rambot?

I gave you a chance to fix the OP....now I'm gonna see if you want to keep running with it.

It's strange to me how close you get to my point without realizing it.

 

[rambot]

IMHO - the thread doesn't make sense.

Do people have to die to make something wrong?

Uhm. No. I don't think anyone argues that.

Wouldn't you like to see fewer people die from gun violence though? Like, wouldn't that be a thing for America to pursue, or is that when we get Darwinian about it all.

That generally seems to be the Republican response.

Shooting people in the genital's is wrong, but cutting them off is right.

The two topic are not compatible, nor comparable.

I'm out.

Fair enough. Not sure if I understand the reasoning for leaving but....ok.

I was kind of hoping it could be explained how it is known that was a toy gun.

 

[Ana the Ist]

IMHO - the thread doesn't make sense.

Do people have to die to make something wrong?

Shooting people in the genital's is wrong, but cutting them off is right.

The two topic are not compatible, nor comparable.

I'm out.

It's hard to imagine this was meant to be taken seriously.

 

[wing2000]

here I draw the line

Seriously, we played cowboys and indians as kids, and watched violent westerns and cartoons.

That is NOT the problem in the 2020's.

I don't recall playing with mock-ups of M-16's or M-60's.

 

[Ana the Ist]

It's strange to me how close you get to my point without realizing it.

If you have a point I'd love to hear it.

100% serious.

The thread seems disingenuous at face value, suggesting a concept without any explanation, the admission of zero evidence, the meme picture of an innocent victim of a violent attack...

None of this says "I've got a real point to make."

But if I've missed it in the context somewhere please....just say it plainly.

 

[wing2000]

Do you have thoughts on the concept of gun grooming?

I have plenty of thoughts on the signals our culture sends to children growing up in today's America. I would not use the word "grooming" though.....

 

[Ana the Ist]

England has the same love for fps games: but curiously our level of gun crime is nowhere near yours. So it’s fps games.

How are those stabbings going?

 

[rambot]

How are those stabbings going?

ROFL! Good one.
You tell him! More stabbings in the US per capita too.

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2023 - Wisevoter

 

[Tuur]

don't recall playing with mock-ups of M-16's or M-60's.

We had toy Tommy guns. Those were very popular, as I recall.

 

[Tuur]

ROFL! Good one.
You tell him! More stabbings in the US per capita too.

Stabbing Deaths by Country 2023 - Wisevoter

Do you attribute that to assault knives?

 

[Tuur]

That's the problem with gun laws.

Um...at the moment I'm wondering about libel laws. No accusations, only something to keep in mind.

 

[BPPLEE]

No one would have died if he was not there. His fault.

How many people killed by the police have you said wouldn’t have died if they hadn’t been there?

 

[Tuur]

I don't recall playing with mock-ups of M-16's or M-60's.

Remembering toy Tommy guns is jogging memories of other toy firearms. A check shows that in 1966, Mattel released a toy M-16 called the Marauder. I dimly recall a broken one, but not where and it wasn't mine. I had a toy gun that looked close to the M60 and had a bipod. After I had outgrown toy guns, I seem to recall toy AK-47s.