Gracepointe Church in Nashville says the Bible is not the word of God

[Lawrence87]

Are any of those "many Churches" Protestant?

For sure, I cannot fault the Protestant love for Scripture nor their zeal for evangelism and missionary work. Fronts upon which the Orthodox Church could do with improving.

 

[Butterball1]

I don't think they are "rejecting Christ". And just because you bristle at their doctrinal preferences doesn't mean they have rejected Christ either.

Be rejecting denominationism you are rejecting ALL denominations, not just Gracepointe. Who appears to be interdenominational anyway. Moot point then. Right?

They said on their website about themselves that they are 'progressive' and went on to say "Although Progressive Christianity defies specific doctrines". They admit they defy doctrine, not defying my "doctrinal preferences".

I checked but could not find "Progressive Christianity" anywhere in the Bible.

When the Bible (not me) says there is ONE church and ONE faith then that means there is ONE church and ONE faith.....1=1.
If I thought Christianity was truly made up of 1000's of unaffiliated groups with conflicting, mutual exclusive beliefs (which is totally antitetical to 'truth', John 17:17) yet all were some how "magically" right then I would not be on this forum or have anything to do with "Christianity". I would probably be agnostic if not an outright rank atheist.

 

[SkyWriting]

"Progressives" is the new 'Communist-Socialist' word label. Communism-Socialism is not compatible with Christianity and God's Word. That false idealism crept into a lot of mid-western and western U.S. churches back in the early 1900s. They got pushed westward along with other cults that tried to get established in the eastern U.S. in those days.

If you want to identify the policies of Jesus we'd rule out capitalism, republics, and Democracy. I'd say Jesus promotes mostly socialistic programs. And then add on The Father and Son and you have a socialistic Monarchy. So there you go. The ideal Christian government.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Here’s the trajectory your church will follow once it's gone Woke A very unsettling article about Gracepointe Church in Nashville which is now outright denying the Bible as the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3 is being lived out before our very eyes.

Realtavism is not the will of the Father. This congregation may very well engage in same sex marriages however, the Father does not recognize any of those marriages. So it is all for nothing.

 

[CatsRule2020]

I would have to conclude that this 'church' more resembles the 'Unity' organization because the teachings are identical. Making this a humanist organization rather than a New Testament Christian organization.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Here’s the trajectory your church will follow once it's gone Woke A very unsettling article about Gracepointe Church in Nashville which is now outright denying the Bible as the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3 is being lived out before our very eyes.

Cont...The unfortunate part of this whole thing is the couples are being lied to. They think God is sanctioning their marriage when in fact He is not. The Pastor and actually all Pastors who take part in same sex marriages are deceiving all these people and their congregation. Very egregious.

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

Their website makes it clear they are Progressive, as here defined:

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This is ecumenism in a nutshell. You can't hold to anything specific as it is divisive and is the process of making all religions and equal path to god. This is the kind of Christianity that will be permitted in the future and those who teach sound doctrine of sin repentance, heaven and hell and Jesus being the only way to the father will be shut down.

 

[Davy]

Does that explain why these folks ended up in Nashville. Someone needs to work on their geography. - lol

I didn't know this event happened in 1900s Nashville.

 

[Davy]

If you want to identify the policies of Jesus we'd rule out capitalism, republics, and Democracy.

That's funny, because capitalism is based on how God's Word teaches that if a man won't work, he should not eat. True capitalism is merely the system of being able to reap the result of one's labor. Communism is just the opposite, a policy from 'man' that reaps where they do not sow, which is the same thing as theft.

As for the idea of a republic, what do you think the old USSR label represented? The 'R' represented 'Republic', even though it was not a real republic representing the people, but actually an oligarchy.

The claim of being 'progressives' is a Communist-Socialist type claim which modern Communists-Socialists use today. So their including that idea has to be intentional.

As for the United States, those not familiar should read the Declaration of Independence written by the founding fathers which is on display at the U.S. Capitol. The Creator is alluded to throughout it.

The Founding Fathers on Jesus, Christianity and the Bible - WallBuilders

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

Yet liberal Christians will defend this as an acceptable doctrine for a Church to hold.

Part of the problem with liberal or progressive Christianity is that it is hesitant to put up boundaries or barriers. Ideas like requiring certain doctrines, certain practices, well they are exclusionary and don't include everyone, so they must be bad. The ultimate end of any such movement within a Church is to deny the very hallmarks of what makes one a Christian because they have not put Christ at the centre, they have put their idol of 'love' at the centre.

Here's the bottom line, any Church that wants to preserve it's Christian witness must expel any member who openly and proudly touts these sorts of progressive ideas. Don't let them subvert your Church from the inside.

 

[Leaf473]

I'd like to bring up a similar, but maybe opposite idea

At what point in history would be like the church to remain fixed, static?

 

[PaulCyp1]

The definition of a Protestant church is "a manmade church that rejects (protests) some of the teachings of original and complete Christianity". There are thousands of different denominations, the teaching of each one contradicting the teaching of the others, so it really isn't any surprise that a few of them have gone so far as to reject even the most essential truths of Christianity.

 

[Jipsah]

So, have you determined that Gracepointe Church in Nashville is NOT a part of the Body of Christ since they don't appear to be Conservative Evangelical Christians?

GracePoint is about as orthodox as the ECUSA or the PCUSA, ie., it isn't. Our Lord was a great teacher, they'll say, and goes downhill from there. Their dogma is "Be excellent to each other" and Party on, dudes!". YOu're better off watching the movie.

 

[Jipsah]

This sort of thing is basically another type of a cult.

If I wanted sound worldly advice I'd become a Buddhist. I've heard Buddhist priests serve up more straight up worldly wisdom than most preachers will ever come near. But if Jesus is God Incarnate, as I believe, then His Word is The Truth, not just how to keep the world from harshing your mellow.

 

[Jipsah]

I'd like to bring up a similar, but maybe opposite idea At what point in history would be like the church to remain fixed, static?

Dunno, I'm tryng to find the Scripture where it says the truths of God change from day to day,

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Here's the bottom line, any Church that wants to preserve it's Christian witness must expel any member who openly and proudly touts these sorts of progressive ideas. Don't let them subvert your Church from the inside.

Truth.

 

[SkyWriting]

That's funny, because capitalism is based on how God's Word teaches that if a man won't work, he should not eat.

No connection there. Anybody could say that in any system.

I'd say Jesus promotes mostly socialistic programs. And then add on The Father and Son and you have a socialistic Monarchy. So there you go. The ideal Christian government.

 

[SkyWriting]

When the Bible (not me) says there is ONE church and ONE faith then that means there is ONE church and ONE faith.....1=1.

Faith in Jesus and "the church" is those of that faith.
Not any specific buildings or labels.

 

[Sage50]

Here’s the trajectory your church will follow once it's gone Woke A very unsettling article about Gracepointe Church in Nashville which is now outright denying the Bible as the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3 is being lived out before our very eyes.

And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. (Colossians 2:19)
Whosoever goeth onward and abideth not in the teaching of Christ, hath not God: he that abideth in the teaching, the same hath both the Father and the Son (2 John 1:9).
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)

 

[SkyWriting]

And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God. (Colossians 2:19)
Whosoever goeth onward and abideth not in the teaching of Christ, hath not God: he that abideth in the teaching, the same hath both the Father and the Son (2 John 1:9).
See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. (Colossians 2:8)

They do focus on Christ according to the website.