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Featured Gracepointe Church in Nashville says the Bible is not the word of God

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by mario1001, Mar 7, 2021.

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  1. mario1001

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    They fulfill prophecy of the very scriptures they deny!!
     
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  5. SkyWriting

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    1. That is logical they might.
    2. They do still consider the scriptures and believe in God. While many do not.

     
  6. Rachel20

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    I was speaking more to the fulfillment of 2 Timothy 4:3 in not enduring sound doctrine. Which I also view as the falling away in 2 Thessalonians 2:3, being an apostasy from the doctrine.
     
  7. SkyWriting

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    Sound doctrine has one/two commandments;

    Why:
    Matthew 22:36-38
    “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.

    How:

    38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
     
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    Actually Titus 1 & 2 gives a good discourse on sound doctrine and what becomes it. Your list proposes God a pragmatist who changes his ways to accept the ways of men, as long as they cloak them in "love", which isn't really love, if they set men on the path to destruction.
     
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  9. GOD Shines Forth!

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    Their website makes it clear they are Progressive, as here defined:

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    and here

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    I thought this chart was a hoot (from their Facebook page)

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    I don’t think anyone will confuse this church with standard "evangelical" churches. There is a similar church in my town, using similar lingo. "Welcome Home" is the entry line. Makes me think of Proverbs where both the Woman Wisdom AND the Woman Folly setup a welcome tent for the simple.
     
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    This sort of thing is basically another type of a cult.
     
  12. SkyWriting

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    Paul never saw Jesus in action so he missed out on every important visual application lesson that Jesus provided. Especially events while Jesus blinded him for days as Jesus often does to people.
     
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    Uhh...this same Jesus is the one who called Paul to be the "apostle to the gentiles", who taught him by revelation. The "pillars" (James, Cephas and John) saw a bunch of visual stuff but they gave Paul and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when conferring over Paul's received gospel.

    Everything is in its proper place, nothing's been missed.
     
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    Did you fact check this? Or are you slandering the body of Christ?
    It looks like they are saying the Bible is not "the Word of God". (capital W)
    Doesn't the Bible say that the Word of God (capital W) is Jesus?
    Are you claiming that Jesus is the Bible?
     
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  16. SkyWriting

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    We are not qualified to judge the destination of others:
    Matthew 7:1-5
    “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
    What Does the Bible Say About Judging Others?
     
  17. SkyWriting

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    Was Paul stumbling around blinded by Jesus during this time? Or was that how James and John were converted maybe.....I don't really recall how many people Jesus blinded over the years. What is the average number of days that Jesus usually blinds non-believers?
     
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    They seem to be clear about where they stand with no evidence of hostility to others.

    James 4:11-12
    Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks evil against the law and judges the law. But if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
     
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    I checked Titus 1 & 2 and there is no mention about "if they set men on the path to destruction."
    If we have to add our own ideas to all the words there, then our sermon is corrupting the text.
    There is no warning about "love" and no mention of sending people down any path.

    That is are doing just what the text warns about. Inventing our own content.
     
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    See post 9 by God shines forth.
    In the second section of what they believe point 2 they say that Jesus is only one of many ways to experience spiritual unity and the oneness of life.

    Jesus himself said that he was the only way. There public statement of what they believe shows they are not Christian.
     
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